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Soiled Clothing (pun intended)

Posted by Elbourne 9 (My Page) on
Fri, May 25, 12 at 13:05

We have a ministry at church where we receive donated used clothing and make the garments available in our "free store." unfortunately, some folks drop off soiled or torn items unfit for redistribution. We end up tossing these to the curb for garbage pick-up.

I also have some empty raised garden beds. The two concrete block high beds measure approximately 4'X12'. I don't have a couple hundred bucks to fill the area with dirt, so I'm considering solving the second problem with the first.

Would I run into any problem if I layered used clothes about 8"-"10 thick in the bottom of the beds and topped them off with 6"-8" of garden soil?


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RE: Soiled Clothing (pun intended)

Use only 100% cotton. It will compost. Perhaps wool will too, but the synthetics break down into nasty stuff.


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WheWhen you say "nasty stuff" do you mean toxic, or just un-decomposed yuckness?

I was thinking of culling out the obvious non- biodegradable stuff like polyester and rayon. Cotton, wool, and silk ought to be good. I'm wondering though, about blended stuff. Since it will be buried, would it be "out of sight, out of mind?" Most folks already think I'm "out of my mind," but I'm thinking what they can't see won't hurt them.

And thinking of all this, would cotton T-shirts and jeans be browns or greens in the composting world? Perhaps adding something in would accelerate the break-down. But I think I would be happy enough just to get the base filler.


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  • Posted by pt03 2b Southern Manitob (My Page) on
    Fri, May 25, 12 at 17:38

It took me this long to get the pun. :-(

I've never composted clothing so I don't know but I'd be interested if you do it and how it works.

Lloyd


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I wouldnt use any blends. Especially if its polyester. Its plastic and chemicals and that is no good. Only use ORGANIC (cotton, wool, etc...)


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I sew a lot, so I have lots of scraps of various sizes, and I can tell you that they take a long time to compost, especially wool; pieces bigger than scraps take geometrically longer - I have a wool scarf (I know it's wool because I knitted it) that is not quite gone after 3 years in the compost bin.


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That's been my experience too, even cotton takes years to fully decompose. However, both cotton and wool ought to hold a lot of moisture and probably nutrients as well. I'd say go for it, at least on one bed, and see how it does over some years. Kind of an interesting wrinkle (get the pun?) on hugelkulture.


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  • Posted by feijoas Temperate New Zealan (My Page) on
    Sun, May 27, 12 at 6:36

In my climate, naturally-derived materials break down pretty fast.
But I'd suggest not adding anything more than a small amount to garden beds: fabric has basically no nutritional value, and while a compost heap can use up the carbon, I imagine putting a large quantity under mostly mineral soil(?) would have it sitting around, blocking worms from coming up and maybe causing nitrogen issues.
I also think future gardeners won't thank you when they're trying to untangle yards of nylon from round the fork...


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I think we have agreed don't put any synthetic fabrics in. The naturals will decompose quickly enough that the next gardener won't have to deal with it, unless it is within 3-4 years.

It would be smart to soak the cloth in a good microbe-rich stew for a few days first, like some tea of fresh animal manure.


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I use natural fabrics as mulches in verge areas.


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I've seen the aftermath of cotton/synthethic blend composting: what you end up with is a 'ghost' of the former garment, only the sythetic fibers remaining. Some fabric has cotton going one way and synthetic going the other way so after composting it's only up and down or back and forth threads left.

There really isn't a toxic problem with nylon and polyester that I know of, so I don't think it will hurt you (after all, you're wearing it, remember) but it will basically turn your garden into a trash dump, which is not so good.


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Late to return to this post. You asked When you say "nasty stuff" do you mean toxic, or just un-decomposed yuckness?

I sure didn't mean toxic. Have done only once in sheet layering two years ago. Finding stuff like the overcast seams of jeans - cotton gone, polyester (probably) thread left behind.

Please let us know if you do this, k?

Rosie


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I have composted some of the strangest things, including fabrics. I'll pull out the synthetic fibers as they rise to the surface.

Your idea of 8-10" of fabric with 6-8" of soil on top won't allow for proper root growth in some plants. If possible, lay down a single layer of nasty old garments which would act like newspaper or cardboard in weed suppression. Then shred the rest of the stuff. Tuck the biggest tatters into corners and along edges, and let the soil mix with the rest. Wool, cotton, & silk are easy to compost. Rayon and bamboo fibers are more processed plant fibers but they will compost after a while. They break down more readily in the sun. Polyester fibers are more photodegradable than biodegradable in the way we understand it. In my experience, it's a real bother to try to get it broken down, but it's not much different than weed barrier fabric.

You can also use a thick layer of wool as mulch to keep moisture in the soil bed. I've done this with nasty raw fiber fresh off the sheep. It keeps weeds down but weed seeds will settle in it after the mower passes and it will sprout grasses.


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I use clothing in the paths as a weed barrier and cover it with wood chips. When I am starting a new area, I dig way down in the future path area and pile that up for the raised beds. Then there is room for hiding ALL kinds of junk: rose trimmings (the thorns take longer to decompose and I don't want to run into thorns in my compost), old clothes and blankets, clementine boxes, old phone books...

So far this has worked for me because I keep making more of the yard into garden! Once there's no more lawn to dig up I won't have those deep ditches. I'll still use the old clothes for weed suppression under the wood chips in the paths, though.


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Thank you all for your input. I'm going to try it as an experiment and see what happens. I have the beds built and we are beginning to set clothes aside for the project. If I can enlist some other crazies, I'll try to shred the cloth as much as possible, but if not I may lay some out flat in half of the bed and roll some up in the other half.

Now I'm wondering what to plant. I'm thinking either something that only needs the 8 inches of soil, or something with aggressive roots that will bore down into the clothes and aid in the breakdown.


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How about Dutchman's Trousers? Scotch Bonnet peppers?

Sorry, couldn't help myself! :-D


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I've always put white cotton shirts, socks, and rags in the compost when they are worn out. What do you think about dyed cotton? By the time I compost clothing, it's been washed a couple hundred times so there can't be much dye left, but I still worry about what is in these dyes. Any thoughts?


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Keep in mind that this stuff is next to your skin, so the dyes are not highly toxic, or else wearing clothes would be a health risk and we'd all have to go nekkid. :-D Seriously though, I don't think this is a problem The dyes will likely biodegrade in the ground soon or later. They do not contain heavy metals these days, they are generally organic molecules that will not persist.

If you have a serious volume of this stuff you might consider looking for a recycler who would send it into the rag pipeline for reuse. We have a local charity that sends (sells, actually, by the bale) all their unusable stuff to a recyler who separates out the cotton for use in cotton rag paper, etc. I'm not sure what they do with the synthetics and blends, but it all goes somewhere. Did you know you can buy fluffy attic insulation made from denim fibers?


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