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Couple of questions about Interbay Mulch method

Posted by jenn 9/19 (My Page) on
Thu, May 5, 11 at 15:23

I have settled on using the Interbay Mulch method to prepare 2 clay beds for planting in Fall. My husband is planning to mow our back lawn tomorrow and use the cuttings in the pile; the grass has grown tall and some of it has seeds. We also have a smallish pile of native soil leftover from other parts of the yard (about 3x3').

A couple of questions:
1. Should we avoid adding grass cuttings w/seed to the Interbay Mulch mix?
2. Can I mix/layer the native soil into the IB mix?


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  • Posted by jolj 7b/8a-S.C.,USA (My Page) on
    Thu, May 5, 11 at 19:20

There are about 10 methods of composting & many more styles of composting. So for those of us who have never heard of
Interbay Mulch method, what is it?


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  • Posted by jenn 9/19 (My Page) on
    Fri, May 6, 11 at 0:17

Sorry, it's described in the FAQ so I assumed most in this forum knew about it. I'm hoping to get responses from those who are familiar with it and can answer my questions.

Interbay Mulch


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The Interbay mulch method was developed by Jon Rowley, in Seattle, several years ago and discussed here when Jon was an active member here. It is quite similar to Lasagna gardening. At the time it received quite a bit of attention as this link will indicate.

Here is a link that might be useful: Interbay mulch in the news


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  • Posted by jolj 7b/8a-S.C.,USA (My Page) on
    Fri, May 6, 11 at 12:46

Interesting, I use burlap bags in composting & mulch around fruit trees/bushes, but did not know that someone had a book on it.


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Hi Jenn. I've used John Rowley's Interbay Mulch method of composting with great success on an existing raised bed of amended clay garden soil.

As long as you have a good mixture of varied ingredients, without too many browns or too many greens predominating, Interbay Mulch should work for you.

It's also important to make sure the ingredients stay moist. (Like the ingredients in a compost heap, somewhere close to the dampness of a well wrung out sponge.) And like a compost heap, it helps if the ingredients don't pack down so much that there is no air flow. You want air to continually circulate so the decomposition stays aerobic.

You ask about mixing native soil into the layers of the pile as you're building it. If it was me, I'd drop the extra soil at the bottom of the pile, and keep any mixing to a handful of soil per square yard, per 1-2" layer deep.

This will help the ingredients to be primed with the existing local soil microherd, but it's really not necessary -- the local microherd is already omnipresent on all the living and dead things in our gardens, fields and forests. :)

However, some gardeners advocate for adding clay soil to compost heaps as a growth site for nitrogen-fixing soil bacteria. Personally, I've done both and haven't noticed much difference. YMMV.

Any grass, including grass with ripe seeds, which you add to an Interbay Mulch pile, is likely to get consumed pretty darn quick by the microherd. (Although if you have persistant stubborn perennial weed grasses like crabgrass, you may want to keep them out, or keep them to the center of the heaps. Others here could likely advise you better on that issue, if it may be a problem for you.)

Some years ago I built an IM heap in the fall. It was originally stacked up about 4-5 feet tall on an 8' x 4' raised clay bed, but it slumped a foot or two within the month. Then I built it back up to the original height, covered it, and left it alone until the following spring.

When the snow melted and warm weather arrived, I removed the cover and started raking thru the largely decomposed ingredients. Aside from fresh wood branches over 1/4" thick, nearly everything had broken down into a rich brown-black compost.

The breakdown was far more rapid than I usually see here with standard passive compost heaps -- and far more uniform throughout the pile. Even the larger wood branches which remained whole had been stripped of their bark, and the bark reduced to fragments the size of small wood chips or less.

There was about 8-10" of compost left once all the branches were removed. I raked it smooth, covered it with a leaf mulch then a wood chip mulch, and transplanted thru it all into the soil surface. The tomato, pepper and basil plants in that area of the garden produced bountifully the following summer, with no weed, pest, or disease problems.

Just make sure you follow the standard composting guidelines. Varied ingredients with a good balance of browns and greens; damp as a wrung out sponge; pile loosely so there's room for airflow.

Summer rainfall here where I live is enough to guarantee any IM or other compost heap usually stays moist. Depending on your local weather, you may want to check the heap once every few weeks to make sure it hasn't dried out.

I found IM a surprisingly fast, efficient and low-effort way to produce large volumes of compost. But if I was doing it again, I'd reduce the number of green branches over 1/4" thick. Though older and thinner deadwood broke down quite well, for me.

Good luck!

All the best,
-Patrick

p.s. When I built my IM heap, I had no burlap handy. So I covered the pile with a single layer of the heavy brown paper from torn-open yard waste bags. Weighted down with light boards and small stones, they kept the heap dark and moist enough to keep working through the winter.


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IB composting works great but if burlap is not avail, you also get good, if not better results if you top your hump with a thick layer of spoilt hay.


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  • Posted by jolj 7b/8a-S.C.,USA (My Page) on
    Fri, May 6, 11 at 17:45

Hi, madmagic.
My problem with the IM would be if I had to water it more then once a week, in the late Fall or Winter.
You said 5' high 8' X 4', fell(composted) 24 inches with in 30 days.
My question is how much water did you put on the IM & how often did you tend to it, in that first 30 days.
If I understand you, you then left it on it's on for 4-6 months of Winter.
This last part would be easy, but I live 16 miles from the compost/ garden site & can not walk out back to check on things. So the backyard plans are great, but will not work for me.
I would like to try this IM, if it as good as you seem to be saying it is. That is if I do not have to baby sit it.
Which is one of the reason I sheet compost so much, may not be faster, but it is simple.
Thank you for you time.


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Howdy, Jolj. :) To answer your questions, I didn't tend or water the IM pile at all. Once it was built, I covered it and left it to passively compost.

You know your local weather conditions best. If not enough rain falls to keep a standard compost heap damp, then an IM heap may not be practical for you, for the reasons you described.

However, it may help to keep in mind that the covering material helps hold water in the heap. Rowley's original method used burlap, but heavy paper from yard waste bags worked quite well for me.

Perhaps you could try a test run this year and see how it works, for you.

All the best,
-Patrick


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The top layer of burlap serves several purposes, among them conserving moisture and keeping the lower materials dark, both of which promote growth of organisms. If you have no burlap, other materials will work, as mentioned above. I've even used old bed sheets and it seemed to work well too. Here I used thumb tacks to hold the sheets in place on the wood frames.
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Rather than thinking in terms of putting water ON the area think about putting it IN the heap as you build. It can be nearly impossible to moisten through the pile once it is built. But if you spray with a hose each time you add a layer of a few inches, that OM will hold moisture for a long time. If you add some compost or some partially composted stuff, that seems to work well.

Karen


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Keep in mind that the Interbay Mulch method was developed in Seattle, Washington. Different climates may require different approaches.


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  • Posted by jolj 7b/8a-S.C.,USA (My Page) on
    Sun, May 8, 11 at 9:38

A test plot sounds good, I have a few other, first. But if I get to it this year, I will post my findings.
The photo is good & the sheet should make the neighbors happy too.
I think Seattle gets the most rain in the USA.


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