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bread, rice, pasta, etc ok for composting?

Posted by granolamom ny (My Page) on
Wed, May 25, 11 at 23:30

can I toss leftover bread, rice, pasta, cookies, etc into the compost?


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RE: bread, rice, pasta, etc ok for composting?

Yes, ma'am--those are all perfectly fine for the compost pile. Most of that stuff from my kitchen doesn't make it to the pile however--the chickens intercept it. :)


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As a general rule of thumb anything you can eat can be composted. Some things may be difficult, ie. fats, and probably should not be.


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No oils; lemon; orange peels.


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Uh oh. Are you looking for someone?


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'No oils; lemon; orange peels.'

Small amounts of oils are fine.

And citrus peels are absolutely fine unless you are intending to dump a ton of the stuff.


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Bread, rice, pasta, cookies, oils, lemon & orange peels, fats, they've all made it to my compost with no ill effects (well, maybe a planaria or two). Moderation is the keyword.

tj


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"lemon; orange peels."

? They make good compost. Do you think it is an acidic issue? It ballances out when composted making a rich compost full of vitamins/minerals.

"Bread, rice, pasta, cookies, oils, lemon & orange peels, fats, they've all made it to my compost with no ill effects (well, maybe a planaria or two). Moderation is the keyword."

Well said.


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Compost, in areas of the world where it is a large component, made from citrus waste is used with no ill affects, so for many of us that add small amounts (less then 2 pounds per week) will not see any problems and that may aid in keeping some critters out of the bin.
Oils are fats and fats are difficult for the bacteria to digest which is why it is not recommended that those materials be added to compost. Some people add them and find no apparent problems.


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Perfectly nice people compost rice and pasta all the time.


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Somehow I knew annpat would weigh in on this one. I have to admit I'm a little disappointed with her luke warm response. I was expecting (looking forward to?) one of her raving lectures about the evils of planaria, the unconscionable creation of *gasp* SOGGINESS by ill-mannered composters. I was searching for her sermon on the moral obligation of all humans to seal bread and bread-like waste in multiple layers of foil, plastic wrap, zip bags, and titanium plating.

Annpat, are you ill? Is it really you or has someone hijacked your username and is doing a weak immitation of your usually fenatical posts?

I'm worried. Very worried.


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Annp has been sidetracked by bees.


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thanks, sometimes I get caught up with all the minutia that it can be paralyzing. my dh said its probably fine to toss in practically anything edible in moderation (he's done not a bit of reading about composting and like me has zero experience, well now we have about a week's worth of experience).

seems I stepped in a pile of poo with my question, its an honest one, I'm not impersonating anyone, nor am I a troll.
just a newbie trying to get my first batch of compost started : )


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"seems I stepped in a pile of poo with my question, its an honest one, I'm not impersonating anyone, nor am I a troll."

No, you didn't step in anything, granolamom. As far as I can tell, it's some kind of very old joke. I can't recall when I started lurking and then posting here occasionally -- might have been some time last year for the latter -- but it was around then as well. It can be confusing to people who come here with real questions about composting pasta, bread, cookies, and such. You and your DH are on the right track -- although I will say that I don't pay much attention to the "everything in moderation" mantra. I dump in almost anything, and it seems to compost eventually. Oils would be an exception, but we don't use them much any more, so they're no longer an issue. Breads, crackers, etc. that I bring home from restaurants (yes, my handy purse often contains various strange items in addition to wallet and sunglasses!) all go in the pile. We even have a whole chicken in the freezer, and since we've given up on eating meat, I'm probably going to dump that in one of these days as well! Anyway, go ahead and compost your rice and cookies -- your pile will be fine.


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granolamom! Of course, you're not a troll. We know that!
Welcome to you and dh to the world of composting. I compost cotton and wool clothing, all citrus peelings, small amounts of oil, junk mail, small amounts of meat, all vegetable and fruit leftovers, rice, pasta---things to whom liquid is not foreign to their nature---a lot of things that are considered a no-no. I bet I have composted more eggshells, coffee grounds, and onions on a daily basis than anyone here; I used to work in a restaurant.

Possessing a refined sensibility, and out of deference to our neighbors, and our pledge to do no harm to the Composting Movement, we here don't compost things that are visually disturbing. Bread comes to mind. (Cheerios, too, of course!) Your cookies are debatable. When you made them, did you forget the flour, like I once forgot to put the eggs in mine? When the cookies were already in the oven, did you come upon the two forgotten cups of flour still there on the counter? If so, I'm thinking you can probably compost them. You might want to closely monitor them the first day or two, and if you see any movement, any indication of sog, you might be able to remove them from the pile, before too much damage has been done to your psyche. They could then be quickly wrapped and disposed of in the landfill. Or you could wrap them tightly in plastic layers before putting them in your pile, I've never considered that before.

Maybe just don't take the chance. I think that's best.


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I spent the afternoon, between rain showers, emptying out my burried garbage can full of kitchen waste into one of my raised beds. It was full to the brim with no room to add any more stale bread, half-a-birthday-cakes, cooked AND uncooked rice (from a busted rice bag), old spagetti noodles, left-over mac and cheese, turkey carcas remains from Easter dinner, burnt BBQ hamburgers, fruit peels, freezer burned veggies, gross-tasting whole wheat/bran flour, coffee groungs and all the kitchen paper items we use. Everytime it gets full, I shovel it out and bury it in the BOTTOM (12 inches down) and only grow non-root crops in that bed until the following year. This is the 5th year that I have been doing this and I have lush veggies, delicious produce and LOTs of what ever I grow. So all that to say, "heck yea, you compost it".


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Some of you want to feed your compost pile better food than many people in the world get to eat.


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We don't WANT to feed our compost better than people... it just that wasted food is expensive to ship to where its needed.


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What about composting uncooked rice? Mine got weevels and have to throw away.


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"What about composting uncooked rice? Mine got weevels and have to throw away."

Compost away.


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I usually toss the tidbits of rice, pasta, bread, corn chips that are left over or stale out for the birds. Crows and blue jays are particularly fond of these. Chickens would be a great use of it though, but I don't have chickens. Moldy items go into the compost. (Emphasis provided for Annpat.)

After my son fries his chicken tenders, mozz sticks, etc. I usually dump the left over oil into the compost bin. That stuff certainly isn't going down the drain - it's terrible for drains, pipes, and septic systems. Also I wipe out the pans and greasy stuff with used paper towels, which of course, then go into the compost.


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As a general rule of thumb anything you can eat can be composted. Fats can create problems in a compost pile, although small quantities usually do not. Fats and meat can attract unwanted critters, mice, rats, raccoons, opossums, skunks, etc. because even when buried deeply they can produce enticing odors. Sometimes those critters will visit your compost pile anyway because they may have learned form others that this pile of stuff often has some nice food.


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New to composting and confused now.
What is wrong with throwing bread into the compost?
I just cleaned out my freezer and was planning on throwing a stale loaf of rye bread in, is that a no no, should I let it mold first.
I have a "earth machine" mostly for kitchen waste, dead heading, etc. although this fall I will have a lot of leaves.


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"What is wrong with throwing bread into the compost? "

When bread gets wet, it gets soggy and grosses annpat out. If you don't care if she thinks you're uncivilized, you can compost it.


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Well, I think that I can safely say that it grosses everyone out, not just we of a particularly exquisite sensibility.
Jamb, say a big hunk of leftover Italian bread from last night's dinner fell into your dishwater when you were cleaning up. Say it was there for like three minutes and you put your thumb through it when lifting it out of the sink to put it on the sideboard until you could figure out how to dry it out and dispose of it. It's a lot like that.


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  • Posted by pt03 2b Southern Manitob (My Page) on
    Tue, Jul 5, 11 at 19:45

"a big hunk of leftover Italian bread from last night's dinner fell into your dishwater when you were cleaning up. Say it was there for like three minutes and you put your thumb through it when lifting it out of the sink"

Interesting recipe, hey AP, does it have to be Italian, I only have French bread in the house.

Lloyd


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I have whole wheat flour that went rancid - can that be composted or will it attract critters (oil from the wheat germ)?

I gotta start keeping it in the freezer instead of the pantry.


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This has been extremely enlightening and entertaining! :*D I have some questions tho: I bought a rotating drum type composter in spring.
I started it with some dried yard waste and kitchen scraps. It began to smell bad and I added lots of shredded newspaper. Now it smells good, like earth. I rotate it just about every day, but it's not hot. I also added some compost starter granules. It's also slightly moist, not wet, not dry. What else can I do to get this thing cooking?


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"Jamb, say a big hunk of leftover Italian bread from last night's dinner fell into your dishwater when you were cleaning up. Say it was there for like three minutes and you put your thumb through it when lifting it out of the sink to put it on the sideboard until you could figure out how to dry it out and dispose of it. It's a lot like that. "

I tried your recipe, but it made the bread taste soapy. It tasted much better when I soaked it in the rinse water instead. You might want to try it that way next time.


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Try hanging French baguettes from hooks in the ceiling over the stove and tea kettle, where the steam rejuvenates and keeps them moist, not soggy.

Works for me. And it gives the kitchen that homey, "Italian Butcher Shop Look" with lots of dangly sausages. Except they're loafs of bread.

Maybe I should head over to the home decorating forum to post this suggestion as well.


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