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Feed Lot Manure

Posted by mauirose 11 (My Page) on
Sat, May 3, 08 at 23:56

Found a source for cow manure and they will load! Comes from a feed lot tho'. Safe to use on ornamentals? Edibles?


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RE: Feed Lot Manure

Fresh, no. Too much urine content & high levels of N that can burn plants, But once mixed with other carbon materials and composted for 2-3 months it is fine for ornamentals. For edibles, longer composting is generally recommended (6 mo.) because of the additional concerns about medications and/or bacterial contaminants.

Dave


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Feed lots add to the animal feed very high quantities of anti biotics to prevent diseases, high enough that there is growing concern about our exposure to these anti biotics as well as the disease pathogens which will allow them to develop immunities which means we will need stronger anti biotics in the future.
You can use this manure if it has been properly composted long enough for those anti biotics to dissipate.


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so if i exercise some common sense should be ok-thanks for your advice.


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"so if i exercise some common sense should be ok"

As stated above, compost the manure with a good carbon source and you should be fine for flowers; for food crops let the compost cure longer to insure all antibiotics/hormones are dealt with by the composting process.

IMO, sometimes "common sense" can get us into strange situations too...

Blutranes


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I keep seeing references to "curing" compost. Once compost is finished it is finished and does not need "curing". If you are not going to use compost right after it is finished and you will be storing it a while, put it someplace cool and dry, but that is storage not curing.


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  • Posted by pt03 3 Southern Manitoba (My Page) on
    Tue, May 6, 08 at 7:50

From the eminent Mr. Jenkins, the.....

Here is a link that might be useful: FOUR STAGES OF COMPOST


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not all feed lot manure is reeking with antibiotics, although there is some. Weed seed would likely be a bigger problem. None the less I agree, that composting it with other material is a good idea. I use it directly on orchard crops where the manure is not touching the crop (crop is up on trees) but compost first where it will be touching the crop.
I use very little manure any more, and mostly mulch with vegetative materials.


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Somehow I stumbled onto this thread.
Here I have something to think about, ...my friend have told me.

He ones lived in Brighton, just outside of Denver Colorado. He ones went to a feed lot to get manure.
After putting it into the garden, nothing wanted to grow anymore.
He knew a fellow who worked at this feed lot and told him about his disappointment.
The answer was this....
These animals are being fed something out of a bag, [outside the bag has a print, skull, with bones across]
He said, he would never get any manure from this feed lot, allot of terrible stuff are being fed.
My friend mentioned, afterwards he realised, when picking up that manure from a old pile, nothing, absolutely nothing
grew on this pile, not even a weed.
Konrad


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"Feed lots add to the animal feed very high quantities of anti biotics to prevent diseases, high enough that there is growing concern about our exposure to these anti biotics as well as the disease pathogens which will allow them to develop immunities which means we will need stronger anti biotics in the future.
You can use this manure if it has been properly composted long enough for those anti biotics to dissipate." - Kimmsr

Kim (may I call you Kim?), what do you mean by long enough for those antibiotics to dissipate? Where do they "dissipate" too? And what do you base this off of?

Kim is right about the fact that some antibiotics seem to be uptaken by some plants. The biggest immediate problem is that some people are allergic to those antibiotics and allergies are often triggered by very small amounts of an allergen.

Personally, I wouldn't use manure from anywhere that overuses antibiotics like that. They pump stuff that is banned for human consumption into animals people eat. It's proven that many of the antibiotics don't break down and we end up consuming them anyway (in the meat and the veges treated with the manure). The CDC supposedly has pretty compelling evidence of links between infections of resistant bacteria and the use of antibiotics in the animals the infected have eaten. There is a reason the World Health Organization, American Public Health Association, and the American College of Preventive Medicine have condemned the use of antibiotics in animals that aren't ill. Personally, I find the people responsible for pretty much wiping out the most deadly pathogen in the last several hundred years (small pox) to be worth listening to.


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Joe the proper way to use my name is Kimm, that is how my mother insisted it was way back when.


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Ah, Kimm, I'll try to remember that.

Has anyone read "The Omnivore's Dilemma"? I'm currently reading it and it just got into the conditions on a feedlot and why the manure is most definitely not to be used as a fertilizer and is considered toxic waste. The author is a journalist for the New York Times. Michael Pollan.

It also goes into the antibiotic issue, which I just read last night after typing my previous post. Ironic that this thread comes up while I am reading this book.

The book isn't some book that is promoting vegetarianism. At least not so far. I have only read the first 150 pages of it. It is not a book about the cattle industry, either. He follows a bushel of corn through the entire process from planting to making it to your plate at home. This includes how it becomes feed and thus meat on your table, dextrose for your coke, fructose for your syrup, flakes for your breakfast, etc. He mentions the antibiotics because of the fact that many of them wouldn't be necessary in the first place if cattle were fed what cattle evolved to eat: grass. He goes into detail on the digestive system and how corn affects the cows digestive system in ways that cause serious damage that leads to infections. He doesn't dwell on animal cruelty. He dwells on the perverse changes to our food that are affecting our national and even world health so that some companies make a huge profit. In actuality, I'd say this book is more a statement against big corporations and government screwing over the American Farmer and using our tax money to do it than anything else.


 
 

 

 


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