Return to the Soil Forum
| Post a Follow-Up
The Truth on Dog Manure in my yard
| | |
Posted by oklahawg NE OK z6-7 (My Page) on Sat, Jun 6, 09 at 23:12
| The Wifey (aka, the boss) came home today with a pooper scooper. For the yard. Said its unhealthy to have the dog poop just sitting there.
I'm the mower. I don't bag so that the leaves and grass clippings provide a low-grade fertilizer.
I have never picked up a piece of dog poop in my yard - EVER - because it will decompose into organic matter for the health of my yard.
The only negative I can think of is if your dog is sick - you could have the fecal matter in the yard and then potentially expose yourself to it. But, if you take care of your dog (we do) don't you remove that concern?
Birds leave droppings everywhere. Whyat's the big deal?
Someone give me the correct answer. |
Follow-Up Postings:
RE: The Truth on Dog Manure in my yard
| | |
| i've always heard that too. but like you said, your dog's health is kept in check so how could something be in it? There was a spot next to my J. Maple in the front yard my dogs would tend to do their business (of all freakin' places!!) anyways, since i've had to fence them in that problem is gone, but that little area has beautiful thick turf. but i'd rather not walk through dog poop just to have a nice lawn. IF you have space for a compost pile, i'd say compost it. Once I had 4 dogs (aka poop factory) and I laid hay down in the businness area of their dog lot. when it was soiled enough I would load it up into a pile, and believe me, it doesn't have to be a very big pile to create plenty of heat, so the bigger the pile the hotter it gets, the more security you can have knowing the heat is killing any possible problems in your pooch's poop. some say it doesn't matter but i still say don't use it on plant you plant on eating |
RE: The Truth on Dog Manure in my yard
| | |
| I'm surprised you even have a lawn after years of droppings. Is it a small dog? Years ago I had two big dogs and was not good about cleaning up after them. They ran a path along the fence and the rest of the grass was pretty much dead. Smell is an issue also. My neighbors that just moved out didn't clean up often enough and the smell was always over the fence. I remove mine, I have a major house fly problem in the area and the more flies in the back yard the more chance they have to get in the house. I have one 25lb dog these days. |
RE: The Truth on Dog Manure in my yard
| | |
| I don't think there is a "correct" answer. I think it depends on how you use your yard. With our first dog (60 lbs) we didn't scoop, DH just mowed it it. If we were having people over who had children, we'd scoop just so they didn't step in it if they ran around the back yard. With just the one dog, smell wasn't an issue where we lived (and I think that varies with your climate as well). When we got 2 labX puppies who grew into 80-90 lb dogs, we had to scoop. Even when we had an acre lot in AK we had to scoop once in a while (mostly in the spring). In the dry climate we're in now, if I didn't scoop, I'd have a petrified poop yard (and there's no grass out back yet, so it doesn't even get mowed in). If you don't have kids running around, if it's not creating an offensive odor and it doesn't bother you to mow it, I don't think it makes much difference. |
RE: The Truth on Dog Manure in my yard
| | |
| Your dog, even though it appears to you to be very healthy, could be a carrier of some potential disease that could infect you and could also have some intestinal worms that you are unaware of and having that stool, manure, excrement, poop, laying on your soil is you simply asking to be infected. Dog stool should be cleaned up, and at a minimum buried, as quickly as possible after it is dropped. |
RE: The Truth on Dog Manure in my yard
| | |
| Municipalities with scoop laws almost invariably find their water quality in surface and shallow groundwater improves after the laws are enacted and enforced. For all of us involved in water quality, please scoop the poop. Thank you in advance for your cooperation. Dan |
RE: The Truth on Dog Manure in my yard
| | |
I'm no expert, but dog poop, or any other poop from a carnivorous creature is not supposed to be good to compost. Unless your dog is a vegetarian. Interestingly, the link below describes ways you CAN apparently compost dog poop. At any rate, I definitely would not leave it laying around the yard. I pick up poop every day because of smell, stepping on it, flys, etc. |
Here is a link that might be useful: dog poop composting
RE: The Truth on Dog Manure in my yard
| | |
| I have a feeling I would be safer from the dreaded poop death (hmm I really wonder if anybody has any stats on that) by not touching it and letting it fester in a hot garbage can all week of course if it smells you probly don't have enough space for your size of dog |
RE: The Truth on Dog Manure in my yard
| | |
| I don't have a dog anymore :-( But I did have a big collie at on time and a 105 lb. golden at another time. Their poops were huge- like elephant turds. They smelled awful and burned the grass if left to decompose there. Karen |
RE: The Truth on Dog Manure in my yard
| | |
| jonas, not that many people die each year from exposure to dog stool, but you might be surprised to learn that children with tapeworm and pinworm are very common and most of those got these parasites from dogs stool. |
RE: The Truth on Dog Manure in my yard
| | |
It seems your wife would prefer that her yard isn't dotted with raw piles of rotting feces. I may be crazy, but that sounds like a fairly reasonable request. |
RE: The Truth on Dog Manure in my yard
| | |
| I put our dog's poo in the compost. |
RE: The Truth on Dog Manure in my yard
| | |
| I have to disagree with jonas302, I have 2 dogs, about 1/2 acre lot. Almost half is backyard, but if I don't scoop, it does smell. I scoop right before trash day though cause the trash can will smell LOTS worse than the yard. |
RE: The Truth on Dog Manure in my yard
| | |
| Dog poop has many of the same pathogens as human poop, including e coli and the aforementioned parasites. So I don't considere it "safe" but as mentioned it does depend on how you use your yard. As an experienced composter, if I had a dog I would consider a special compost bin for poop, and use the compost away from food crops. My two cents. |
RE: The Truth on Dog Manure in my yard
| | |
| If your dogs are leaving huge piles of stinky stools then that is an indication of poor quality food. You would be amazed at how much less volume and less smell a good quality food produces and less clean-up. Stools should be firm and hold their shape. Alpo and old roy are the pits. I know not everybody can afford to go to the pet store or vet to get better food in this economy but it's something to think about. If you must use supermarket/Walmart food then PurinaOne is about as good as it gets. |
RE: The Truth on Dog Manure in my yard
| | |
| Have to agree about the purinaone. I have a sister in law who is a middle management type there and according to her they use better ingredients in their dog food than most fast food restaurants use in your food. |
RE: The Truth on Dog Manure in my yard
| | |
| Whenever we talk about composting poo, I have to post a link to the Humanure Handbook. If Mr. Jenkins can compost his family's poo, then I can compost my dog's poo. My dogs are fed premium food, vaccinated and given monthly de-wormers. If my dogs are ill, they are taken to the vet. If you are not comfortable leaving poo in the yard, or composting it, then toss it in the garbage. |
Here is a link that might be useful: The Humanure Handbook
RE: The Truth on Dog Manure in my yard
| | |
| Putting on my microbiologist hat: If the dog is healthy, no problem. If the dog has worms, it could be a problem, depending on the soil type and whether you walk barefoot on the wet lawn. I toss the dog poop in the compost pile and cover it with a layer of dried stuff ... by the time I break down the compost heap, it's gone. No smell. BTW, apartment dwellers and their dogs share an amazing amount of "intestinal flora" ... |
RE: The Truth on Dog Manure in my yard
| | |
- Posted by ppod 6 SE NY (My Page) on
Tue, Jun 9, 09 at 17:01
| Another poster said (some time ago) that he buried his dog's poo in the yard: dug a hole and buried it. The poo broke down and improved his soil, he claimed. Haven't a clue myself about this business; just repeating what I read.... |
RE: The Truth on Dog Manure in my yard
| | |
| I've heard of this and haven't got around to it but will some day. Dig a deep hole, same size as a 5 gal bucket. remove bottom of bucket, place in hole. small amount of leaves or shredded paper, put dog doo in hole, cover ea time w/ carbon (leaves/paper) add redworms or wait for them to come on their own. Keep lid on bucket or a flat rock will do the same and look more natural. Keep carbon source near by. People claim that it takes years to fill up, it breaks down w/ the leaves, worms eat it. BSFL even better! |
RE: The Truth on Dog Manure in my yard
| | |
| I have heard fish and game people and others in that sort of field say the reason that there are laws about animals in parks and especially around lakes and reservoirs is that dogs are well known carriers of giardia bacteria. As somebody who was unlucky enough to catch that particular bug when I was about 9 I would say don't compost it just toss it. However if your animals are healthy and you give them de-worming pills and the like, and they never have the opportunity to do any backyard hunting I would say that they probably wont be carriers of giardia. So the choice is ultimately up to you. I wouldn't personally use it for compost for food but maybe for decorative plants. |
RE: The Truth on Dog Manure in my yard
| | |
- Posted by dsfoxx 8b last I heard (My Page) on
Fri, Jul 3, 09 at 22:42
| Our municipality's started putting signs out in parks: "Because Dogs Can't Flush." Which amuses me, though I think the money'd be better spent on setting up a couple of BSFL units--they don't seem to be vulnerable to deworming medication residue as composting worms are; native species; low-maintenance; and free. Just disgusting. For my own pets, I'd be more inclined to go for composting worms with a side of EM, but I'm a cat person, and the household feline has so far refused to switch to a compostable litter. But for the neighborhood dogs, whose people don't scoop, I do have a separate BSFL unit, a bottomless lidded container buried (hidden) among some ornamentals. Works amazingly well when I can bring myself to stick a bag on the end of a shovel and clean up the pathways. DSF http://bookashislope.blogspot.com ...and there was rejoicing in the tower, for the wriggle had survived the heat! |
RE: The Truth on Dog Manure in my yard
| | |
| toxocariasis!!! I am soo angry with people with Dogs round here, they let their dogs poop on the grass along the sidewalk! and don't clean up, this is public space! I have 4 year olds who like to roam! I am thinking of putting a sign up saying "to the filthy animals who don't clean up after their Dogs! clean up!" surely this should be a fineable thing?? |
Here is a link that might be useful: I suggest you go through and read the symptoms ect.
RE: The Truth on Dog Manure in my yard
| | |
| DH and I have always had dogs and always shoveled up after them daily. IMO piles of dog excrement are not a decorative feature in a yard even tho we have a fenced dog run separate from our lawn and garden. I would never put it in the compost but that's probably just my own squeamishness and the fact I don't like intestinal diseases. When we lived in the city the dog poo went in the garbage or we used the bottomless bucket dug into the soil system. Here DH dumps it out in the forest. Maybe it keeps the coyotes away. |
RE: The Truth on Dog Manure in my yard
| | |
| The ordinances that require cleaning up dogs stools have a valid basis in fact, even though many people have no idea what those are. The same can be said about the public health laws that require food service workers to properly wash their hands before returning to work after using the toilet. Many people who have no idea of the whys usually cast dispursion on those of us that understand and support those whys. |
RE: The Truth on Dog Manure in my yard
| | |
| The poop scoop laws are more about nitrogen/nitrate contamination in rain water runoff than they are about parasites. Dog deposits have been found to be a significant contributor to water quality degradation in urban and suburban areas. There are approximatley 68 million dogs in the United States... 40 million households own at least one dog. Thats a lot of dog poo that needs to be properly disposed. Bacterial source tracking studies in a watershed in the Seattle, Washington area also found that nearly 20% of the bacteria isolates that could be matched with host animals were matched with dogs. This bacteria can pose health risks to humans and other animals, and result in the spread of disease. It has been estimated that for watersheds of up to twenty-square miles draining to small coastal bays, two to three days of droppings from a population of about 100 dogs would contribute enough bacteria and nutrients to temporarily close a bay to swimming and shellfishing (US EPA, 1993). Pet waste can also be a factor in eutrophication of lakes. The release of nutrients from the decay of pet waste promotes weed and algae growth, limiting light penetration and the growth of aquatic vegetation. This in turn can reduce oxygen levels in the water, affecting fish and other aquatic organisms. Animal waste collection programs use awareness and education, signs, and pet waste control ordinances to alert residents to the proper disposal techniques for pet droppings. In some parts of the country, the concept of parks or portions of parks established specifically for urban dog owners has gained in popularity. With provisions for proper disposal of dog feces and siting and design to address stormwater runoff, these parks may represent another option for protecting local water quality. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Animal Waste - Pollution Prevention
|
|
|
|