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Questions on composting

Posted by Celbrise none (My Page) on
Sun, Sep 9, 12 at 15:11

i have been composting for a while now 2 months to be exact but the problem is i just built a big pile outside in a junk bin and im having problems getting it to heat up/cook and also many other problems as well.

here are some question i have and concerns. please answer all you can and label by number.

1. my bin is made out of old screened windows it's something we had laying around and it was already made but the problem is when i air out the bin it just pokes holes into the screen and stuff just keeps falling onto the ground and wasting away.

so i was wondering first of all should i just scrap this bin go with a cheaper design? im looking to make one of those circular bins out of some plastic fencing material we have laying around and doesn't seem to be getting used at all.

2. does it really matter how tall the pile is? this fencing im planning on using isn't extremely tall it's most likely shorter then my existing pile.

3. does it matter if the finished compost lands on the dirt? i mean would all the nutrients be wasted going into the ground when i water my compost pile? if so how can i prevent this besides harvesting?

4. how often should one turn a big pile? i turn my small pile once a week seems to have done fine. i don't have a compost thermometer

5. does layering the compost a good idea? i did it with my smaller pile and got it to heat up but my bigger pile outside i just threw w.e i had and nothing. does it really make a difference weather you layer it from the start or not? like carbon, nitrogen, carbon, nitrogen, etc..


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RE: Questions on composting

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1. Unsupported window screens doesn't strike me as strong enough. It's not the screen but the frames. I nailed window screen to pallet bins to keep the rodents out. That finally worked when I used pet proof window screen.

2. The minimum size everyone hangs on to for hot composting is 27 cu ft or 3 ft x 3 ft x 3ft. I've done OK at 17 cu ft with a round bin 30 inches high. I don't like going smaller than that for a hot compost deal. I would expect 2 ft x 4 ft x 4 ft to work fine.

3. It probably works better if the compost, compost bin sits on the dirt. That allows soil microbes and worms to get into the bin. The loss as the process matures is inconsequential.

4. I'm sure once a week is plenty. If it's a really big bin and it amounts to too much work, I'm sure a monthly turn will serve you fine. It will just take longer. The more energy you put into the process, like turning the pile, the quicker it will mature.

5. I like to mix ingredients rather than layer but if you're turning once a week, it will mix soon enough. I use shredded paper and grass clippings a lot. Each will clump up by themselves and once you get clumps of grass clippings or clumps of shredded paper, the whole thing slows down. Mixing or blending the two together keeps them from clumping.

That's what works for me. What works best is what works for you. If layering and short bins work for you, there's a lot to suggest that's what will work best for you.

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the screen is supported. it is just old screen frames screwed together.

but i will just leave it as is and continue composting it while i have an indoor compost as well. more yield and faster yield in the future


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Take the screen frames apart before turning or mixing, set them up close by so as you remix you can put the material back into the bin.
Volume, not height, helps the bacteria as does enough food, Carbon, and enough catalyst, Nitrogen, and sufficient moisture. The minimum size, as mentioned, is 27 cubic feet, but the ratio of Carbon to Nitrogen needs to be close to 30:1 with enough and not too much moisture.
It really does not matter if your compost pile sits on your soil. If you are concerned about nutrient leaching you are adding too much water. There should not be any water runoff from your compost pile.
Layering can help you learn to get the proportions close to right and as time passes you could get them there without layering. That may take a while but you will get a feel for it, eventually.
How often to turn depends. Some of us seldom turn our compost anymore while others turn theirs often. Turning can remix so undigested stuff gets put toward the center where the bacteria that digest that material are most active, but it also disturbs them some so they slow down.
Perhaps this tutorial might be of some help.

Here is a link that might be useful: Composting Tutorial


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I could only answer one of your Qs.

2. If you want maximum heat generated by termophiles bacteria which is optional for a good pile, size does matter. The minimum size of your pile to achieve 160 degree is not less than 1 cubic yard, i think. The bigger the pile the faster it reaches that temp, provided that you give enough water,air and correct carbon ratio as well.


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Good answers above so I have only one thing to add: Some nutrients will leach out of your pile, but I look at it as a positive for the soil below it, rather than a loss. If the pile/bin can be moved around to new places, it will leave enriched spots behind it. As long as you don't overwater, the compost will still be rich & yummy.


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