|
| So im new to the whole gardening thing an i fertilized my vegie garden with my dogs poop. I didnt find out un till harvest time that i should not have done that do to the transfer of bacteria and other bad stuff. My question is can i still safly eat my carrots and corn if i cook them? and what about my pumpkins can i still use them for pumpkin pie since im cookng them? and how long is my soil considered contaminated. there is about a years worth of dog poop burried in my garden from a golden lab.
Thanks to any one who offers advice. |
Follow-Up Postings:
|
| The chance of any nasties actually being in your garden from dog poop is very, very slim. You dog is as clean as the local it lives in. Do not worry about it. It cannot affect pumpkin or corn and just wash the carrots as you would any way. |
|
| Some people have no problem with using dig, and cat, feces in their gardens while those with good knowledge about this material tell you not to. |
Here is a link that might be useful: dog feces in the garden
|
| I would have no problem eating corn from your garden, and the pumpkin should be OK, too, provided that you wash it off well before cutting and peeling. I would pass on the carrot salad, though. |
|
- Posted by gardengal48 PNW zone 8 (My Page) on Fri, Sep 7, 12 at 15:08
| The chance of any nasties actually being in your garden from dog poop is very, very slim. This is simply not true. Pet waste contamination is a huge contributor to water pollution, perhaps even larger than fertilizers and pesticides. And much of it is due to leaching from home gardens into groundwater, as well as from parks and other open areas where owners fail to clean up properly after their pets. Any pet waste should be fully and thoroughly composted before being incorporated into the garden. A single ounce of dog feces contains 23 million bacterial microorganisms - about double that of human feces. Included in these are coliform bacteria, which can cause diseases like salmonella, giardiasis, cryptosporidium and ecoli. The feces also can contain hookworms, roundworms and other parasites. While it is unlikely any of these can be transmitted into ears of corn or into pumpkins or squashes, I would avoid consuming anything that comes in contact with the soil......like the carrots, or any other root crops, greens, etc. And wash everything well! |
|
| Paranoia strikes deep, into your life it will creep.... I guess you had better take your dog to the vet soon, or put him down, as that article and gardengal say he probably has some nasties crawling around inside him. Although this does give a reason where deep tilling has great advantages over simply putting compost on the top of the soil. |
|
| RpR, it is not paranoia but simple common sense that says you take simple steps to prevent exposure to the many disease pathogens that are out there. Does the death of 3 people from Listeria from Cantelopes mean nothing? |
|
- Posted by strobiculate none (My Page) on Sat, Sep 8, 12 at 9:18
| If I lived my life to avoid risk, i'd sit on my couch and do nothing, and get killed in a car accident. It's not aboid reducing exposure to risk...there are far too many to be concerned about. It's about being prudent. Proper washing and prep of food should take care of most problems in this situation. I manage my family's vegetable garden in the same way taught by my grandfsther, who learned from his family...each spring, when we cleam out the barns, we drop a load or two on the vegetable patch. The rest goes on the fields, but that's grown for feed. When it gets peculiar is when you are asked to hive advice that will be safe to follow, regardless of knowledge, in all soil types, in all climates. And to provide a measure of safety to prevent a legal barrier in the event of tragedy. Because #$it happens. Doesn't mean anyone is at fault. Unless money can be made off you. Because we all know money is the most important thing. Or at least we act like it is, and you know what they say about actions and words. |
|
- Posted by toxcrusadr (My Page) on Mon, Sep 10, 12 at 10:55
| Of course dogs have nasties crawling around inside. So do we. It's not a problem - as long as we don't eat poop. Which is what this thread was all about in the first place. I thought it was a very good question that the other posters are trying to answer with some authoritative info. |
|
- Posted by jimbobfeeny 5a IN (My Page) on Sun, Sep 16, 12 at 21:38
| "Baddies" aside, I wouldn't recommend using pet feces on gardens - Too much salts. And, as was pointed up in the recent Indiana Melon Salmonella outbreak, WASH YOUR VEGETABLES before you eat them! Simple as that! |
|
| I would not use pet poop. |
|
| I wouldn't either-- There are too many other herbivore-based manures available for FREE. Though, I also wouldn't be too paranoid about eating the veggies where my dog happens to take a dump. Now, if I saw a big pile right on top of one of my spinach or lettuces, I'd pull it and throw it. Kevin |
|
| The question is: is it safe to eat carrots, pumpkin and squash if its cooked. Cooking entails temperatures high enough and long enough to destroy almost all the normal food pathogens - I can't think off hand of anything that isn't destroyed by normal cooking. What, 1.5 billion of the 7 billion people who live on earth today are living in unbelievable filth and squalor, and most of them don't get sick as long as they cook their food and peel their fruit. |
|
| david52 wrote: "Cooking entails temperatures high enough and long enough to destroy almost all the normal food pathogens - I can't think off hand of anything that isn't destroyed by normal cooking." Doesn't Mad Cow survive the cooking process? I thought I heard that somewhere. Kevin |
|
| Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, what "Mad Cow Diseases in humans is known as, is still a dilema since it is nor really known how it is transmitted. Since the prions that are found in the brains of cattle, and sheep, with this do survive high heat there is some thought that this might be one way. Why do some that are exposed to this come down with it while others similarly exposed do not and why do people with no exposure come down with this disease? |
Please Note: Only registered members are able to post messages to this forum. If you are a member, please log in. If you aren't yet a member, join now!
Return to the Soil Forum
Instructions
- You must be a registered member and logged in to post messages on our forums.
- Posting is a two-step process. Once you have composed your message, you will be taken to the preview page. You will then have a chance to review the contents and make changes.
- After posting your message, you may need to refresh the forum page in order to see it.
- It is illegal to post copyrighted material without the owner's consent.
- HTML codes are allowed in the message field only.
- No advertising is allowed in any of the forums.
- If you would like to practice posting or uploading photos, please visit our Test forum.
- If you need assistance, please Contact Us and we will be happy to help.