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Best Way To Chop/Grind Vines

Posted by suntower z5 WA (My Page) on
Sun, Oct 28, 12 at 0:48

Hi,

I have a small compost heap that should be a LARGE compost heap, but I have a problem: we have TONS of vines and small bushes. Honeysuckle, jasmine, grapes, camellia, tomatoes, rhododendrons, etc.

Normally, I run the smaller ones over with a lawn mower, but that's not very efficient... plus it gets fouled with many of the larger ones.

I have an electric 'chipper' that works -fine- for woody things but is -useless- for anything flexible... which is 90% of what we have.

SO: Is there any relatively inexpensive machine you can recommend which will reliably grind/chop the above plant material. If we could find one, we'd never have to purchase compost -again-.

TIA,

--JC


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RE: Best Way To Chop/Grind Vines

  • Posted by pt03 2b Southern Manitob (My Page) on
    Sun, Oct 28, 12 at 9:14

I've read where people have thrown some vines onto their driveway in a thin layer and then drove over them for a while before chucking them into the bin. Might look kind of messy but it would be cheap and easy.

Lloyd


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You might look into renting a professional chipper, like the kind tree trimming companies use. Those guys will devour anything organic. Rental equipment companies should have them available. Not exactly the cheapest things ($150-300/day, depending on size, in my area), but if you do your clearing just once or twice a year or have room to store it for a time, a half day rental would be more than enough time to get through a BIG stack of debris.


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In my experience, flexible vines will clog tree service chippers. Besides that, it can be quite dangerous to feed vines into a large chipper because they can get wrapped around your arms or legs and drag you into the chute.

I use my mower to shred this type of material but I can see your point that if you have alot of it, a mower is not ideal. I think I would create a separate compost pile for them and just wait, even if it takes a couple years. I put whole bean stalks into my compost pile and they eventually disappear. Running over the pile with the tiller occasionally seems to speed things up.


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Thanks for the replies. I'm wondering if a machete is a first step. I have a really crappy one from Harbor Freight... I'm told that good ones are as sharp as a scalpel.

I think if I could get them chopped into -smaller- sections (like 12" or less) -then- hit them with a lawnmower, I'd be in good shape.

Any thoughts on this? Recommendations for machete?


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Go back to Harbor Freight and pick up a sharpening stone.


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I use a no-turn method for all my compost. It's slower, but easier.

I pack them into the center of a remesh compost cylinder as tight as I can, water them well, and dump lawn clippings on them, or feces-free cat litter (basically urine-soaked sawdust).

The outer rim of the cylinder has leaves and easily composted stuff piled up, vines drop into the center cavity.

Then I pound it down with a rake to get the fine stuff to drift down into the voids of the vines. and water it periodically. And keep piling things into the cylinder, like kitchen waste. Until it's full, then I let it sit, watering periodically, until I need compost.

Here is a link that might be useful: Cheap wire compost bin


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I was thinking machete too. If you aren't up for sharpening it, take it to a place where they sharpen mower blades and they'll put it on the grinder wheel. I put it in the vice and use a flat file. Helps to have a stump or short log to chop on, easier on your back.


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I've recently been reading about Hugelkultur (someone on this forum may have mentioned it) and am thinking of doing this with my woody yard waste (and maybe some deadfall branches) next year. Might be an easy solution for your vines.

Check out the "the richsoil link" or google for more info. It's not necessary to dig a hole but one can make a raised bed using this method. That's what I plan to do.

Here is a link that might be useful: Hugelkultur works


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I sharpened my machete and it works a lot better... not great, but better. I also think it would help if we had some -dry- days!

That Sepp Holzer sounds interesting. A bit extreme for a guy like me with a small suburban yard, but it's definitely got some good ideas.

Thanks all!

---JC


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I had some of those elephant ear plants and the stalks would split and wrap themselves around the mowers rotor. I saw them do a little of that in my chipper and stop doing that too.

I took lopers and chopped them down to about 1 foot sections while they were green and left them on the drive way to dry out and then ran 'em over with the mower.

Sometimes I just threw the 1 ft sections into the long term no turn bins similar to lazygardens. Those bins were dedicated to stuff I didn't want to turn and were on 18 month to 2 year cycles.

The best implement I saw for fibrous stuff was an old silage thing I saw at a farm fair. It had a long shallow slough ramped down to a chopping blade. I think it was used for corn stalks.

I know the tree guys out here have to use a particular kind of chipper for palm fronds. Those things are fibrous too. I only had a couple of pygmy palms to deal with so it was no big deal to chop the stalks, let dry and then mow.

to sense
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I do the no-turn method as well. Heap the vines up, cover them with grass clippings and whatnot, water them in well, and wait a year.


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