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| I'm wondering whether this is the biggest reason why my compost is taking so long to develop. Firstly, I'm a lazy composter with a bunch of black plastic earth machines and a pile that gets the coarser stuff hucked on. I don't turn anything much. We don't get rain for several months and being lazy, of course I don't water my compost bins. At the end of the summer everything is so dry it won't accept water, it just runs off. So now it's the rainy season here on the west coast and this winter, I'm taking the lids off the earth machines to see if that will help them produce compost faster. Any thoughts? |
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- Posted by tiffy_z5_6_can 5/6 (My Page) on Sun, Oct 24, 10 at 18:47
| Dotty, Even with our moisture here on the east coast being higher than yours on the west coast I still water my compost, especially in the summer. I just started another pile last week and watered it - our fall season this year has been unusually dry. I soak mine, turn and expose dry materials, water again, turn, and keep up the routine until everyhting is moist but not soggy wet. It works wonders. Just keep an eye on it and when you feel there's enough moisture in there, cover them back up. I do cover with a tarp to keep the moisture in mine. There's no doubt moisture makes a great difference. Dry pockets won't compost since they don't provide a sauna for the microherd to move in and do their thing. :O) |
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- Posted by dottyinduncan z8b coastal BC (My Page) on Mon, Oct 25, 10 at 11:41
| thanks Tiffy. Being covered in the bins some of it is quite dessicated. I know I should try and do better! |
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| Dotty, I'm wondering; do you have any use for a compost pile....it certainly sounds like you don't use compost because you cant produce it because you don't have the energy to bother attaining it. My advice, get rid of the pile, use the space for something else.....not growing something....maybe put in a hammock and laze away the summer sun. And as far as rain.....I'll exchange my snow for your rain any day.....except if, we get the same winter we had last year....temps in the 50's & 60's, twice it snowed more than 4"...sunny days......yeah, real west coast weather...sorry you didn't get it....oh well, you guys hate Ontario anyway....its the engine, you know, that drives Canada's industry..... |
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| Wow, that is kinda snotty there goren. Sorta not called for IMO. Lloyd |
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| Very snotty, downright rude. Totally uncalled for. Karen |
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- Posted by dottyinduncan z8b coastal BC (My Page) on Mon, Oct 25, 10 at 16:30
| I'm not going to comment on Goren's posting, I hope it's just that he's having a bad day. Lloyd and Karen, thanks. |
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- Posted by vermontkingdom 4a (My Page) on Tue, Oct 26, 10 at 6:50
| I think Goren is just having a "little fun". I doubt he was serious. Life is short, lighten up. |
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- Posted by gardener_sandy z7 VA (My Page) on Wed, Oct 27, 10 at 7:42
| Stop with the bins and put everything in one uncovered pile and forget about it. If you think about it you can chuck a shovel of soil on top occassionally to speed the process a bit. It will eventually turn into compost, even without additional watering or turning. It will just take longer than a pile that's watered and turned and babied. When you are ready to use it you will need to remove the top layers that haven't rotted yet(use that material to start the next pile) and dig out the beautiful black gold near the bottom. It all leads back to compost, even if left alone. Sandy |
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| The material to be composted, digested by bacteria, needs to be just barely moist, as moist as a well wrung out sponge is the usual description. Too much water in the mix dispaces the necessary air they also need and leads to anaerobic (in the absence of air) digestion. |
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- Posted by nutsaboutflowers 2b/3a (My Page) on Fri, Oct 29, 10 at 12:09
| dottyinduncan I've lived within 50 miles of where you are. My friend and I used to share our pile. We just threw everything in a pile behind a shed and left it. I wasn't there long enough to use the stuff, but somehow I think it's fine. I'm now in another climate, but still do the same thing. It took a while, (it freezes solid in the winter) but I have beautiful black gold, with the most effort being walking to the bin to throw the stuff on. Nature does it's thing without me doing a thing. Don't get rid of your compost just because you don't want to put in a lot of effort =:) |
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| I agree about tossing the multiple small bins and make one big pile. If you have an excessive amount, make the pile a long one. Or hire a tree service or landscaping company to come take it all away. The year I had a massive surplus due to a garden makeover, I had one huge pile removed. Sounds like the OP's pile could use some watering. I water as I turn then throw a big plastic sheet over the pile to keep it from drying out too fast. The sheet was a wrapper on some lumber. My local home building store discards piles of of these wrappers. Another thing I like to do is shove a stick in the top of the pile and wiggle the stick around to make a chimney. Then I stick a hose in there and let it run until water comes out of the pile somewhere. In a pile treated like this, the next time I turn it a few months later I expect to find a big pocket of lovely finished compost inside. |
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- Posted by joepyeweed 5b IL (My Page) on Mon, Nov 8, 10 at 10:09
| I agree with the last two posters. If you have a problem, its probably the containers. I think everyone should be a lazy composter. Composting should not be a lot of work. I rarely do anything to my compost, and yet somehow the stuff still decomposes. But I do use a large 4'x4'x4' fence bin wrapped with chicken wire. Its very forgiving when the ratios aren't quite right. You may not even have a problem, you just need more time. Eventually everything will decompose. The energy that one puts into composting just increases the rate of decomposition, so one gets finished compost faster. If you are not in a hurry, eventually it will decompose, even if you do nothing and even if you don't have the ratios of green to brown or moisture right. |
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- Posted by dottyinduncan z8b coastal BC (My Page) on Mon, Nov 8, 10 at 11:46
| Well, I took the lids off the boxes and the compost is now moist. We have had an incredible autumn with some warm temps and good rainstorms. I'm still picking raspberries!I know we should just have one big pile, but so far that was impossible. We have just added a large gate to our deer-fenced veggie garden so we are able to move material from the garden to a pile where it can decompose in peace. As the boxes in the veggie garden empty I'll retire them. |
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| I've done the same thing with lid off several times over summer or dumped what rainwater was collected in various buckets I'd left in the garden area while weeding. We mostly use them to store compost materials (green kitchen waste & brown household paper napkins, tissues, etc.) until spring when we remove lid & turn entire pile adding some grass clippings or dry leaves if that's what is needed. It's nearly impossible to mix materials reaching in the top like instructions say. It's nice to have them contain materials so they don't blow away or critters scatter. However, the small amount of compost available to harvest from that little door at the bottom is not worth the bother for me as it's hard to slide it closed again. We usually use the contents of both along with other materials to build a large pile in spring and again in early fall. The large pile usually heats up & we turn about 4-10 times before just covering it until needed or cured. We don't rely on the plastic composters as my source of compost for our gardens as it just doesn't produce volume needed especially, when we continually add fresh materials as accumulated. |
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| after a couple of years of having dried out/let nature take it's course piles.... I now water my piles. Every time I turn the pile, fork by fork I now douse it every few fork fulls. It's working really well for "me". It hasn't been too dry here but my piles heat up quick and I'm guessing cook out all the moisture. My piles are in pretty much just piles with a decorative lattice structure around it. I love them :) sorry to the other people who will disagree with what works really great for me.( heeheehee that rhymed). :) Laura |
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