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Ph of the soil, a big issue

Posted by sdraza1 Ontario, Canada (My Page) on
Tue, Oct 23, 12 at 16:09

I bought a jasmine plant from a local store and it failed to grow even with fresh potting soil and lot of sun. I then added ALSo4 and it started growing. I had the same problem with roses too and whichever soil (garden or potting)I checked for Ph, I always found alkaline Ph. I don't know why the alkaline soil is being sold in stores. thanks


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RE: Ph of the soil, a big issue

  • Posted by ericwi Dane County WI (My Page) on
    Tue, Oct 23, 12 at 16:26

Topsoil with alkaline pH is usually found where limestone formations also are found. Limestone is sedimentary rock, and it originates on the floor of oceans or lakes. Marine life results in shells and micro-shells(diatoms) settling out on the bottom, and eventually enough material accumulates to form a layer of mud, that turns into limestone in 100 million years or so. Since alkaline soil is pretty common, there are lots of plants that will grow well in these conditions. As you have found, there are many plants that do better in neutral or acidic soil type.


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RE: Ph of the soil, a big issue

Potting soil is not topsoil (or shouldn't be). In fact most potting soils do not contain any real 'soil' at all but are various combinations of peat or coir and barks with some compost often thrown in and various drainage enhancers like perlite or sand added as necessary. Typically these soils tend to the acidic side of things so often are limed to adjust pH - maybe more than is absolutely necessary. I've yet to discove one that was any more alkaline than neutral - and most were slightly acidic with a few quite acidic. I guess regionality could be a factor but I'd want to know specific ingredients before I'm convinced.

OTOH, how did you determine the potting soil pH? Did you test it? If so, how? Erroneous home tests too often result in skewed readings.


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RE: Ph of the soil, a big issue

I use the meter which tells you ph, light and moisture level. I don't say that it is 100% accurate but it can give you an idea of ph as when i used this meter to see the ph of vinegar, it told me a ph of perhaps 3 or 4. I added AlSo4 in jasmine without checking ph (I didn;t have the meter at that time) as it was already dying


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RE: Ph of the soil, a big issue

If the pH of the potting soil is alway alkaline, even if that meter tests vinegar at around pH 3 or 4, it may not be reading at all accurately. Unless you have a laboratory pH meter that costs several hundreds the less than $100.00 meters are not very accurate. As gardengal states above the pH of most all commercially available potting soils will be adjusted toward neutral although some will be adjusted for specific plants.
When testing with this meter do you use tap water or distilled water?


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