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Fixing raised-bed soil from dog poop?

Posted by idiot_gardener 10 (My Page) on
Fri, Nov 9, 12 at 1:03

Hi there,

1st time poster. I would say I'm novice, if not an idiot. I'm in Los Angeles, CA.

I have a 4x8x2 raised bed vegetable garden in my back yard that I started last year. Everything (tomatoes, lettuce basil) did pretty well this 1st year, but soil was leaking out the corners and seems, so I removed all the plants bought that black weed cloth and lined the seams inside the box.

In the corner of the yard is a dry dirt pile. My 2 small dogs (8 lbs each) poop in the yard back there, so about once a week, I take my rake and push it to that dry dirt pile.

Before I even bothered checking the internet to learn that adding dog poop to soil is very bad, I added most of that dry dirt pile with the dog poop. ACK!!!

Is my soil ruined?
Is there a way to salvage it?

If it matters, a few things to 'help' the case.

1.) The poop has been out there for a while. Like months, cooking in the hot southern California sun.

2.) My dogs have never had worms, nor take any medication.

3.) My raised bed has a lot of earthworms. If I wait long enough, will the earthworms eat the dog poop and dispose of the problem?

Also, one answer I could not find anywhere is how exactly the dog poop is bad for the soil. It could have e coli or ringworms...how does it transfer to the vegetables to get humans sick?

I screwed myself, as it will be very difficult to remove and dispose of 64 cubic feet of tainted soil.

ANy help would be greatly appreciated.


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RE: Fixing raised-bed soil from dog poop?

The feces of dmestic pets, dog or cat poop, are not things that should be used in our gardens because of the potential for many diseases and intestinal worms those feces could carry. These potential problems are usually transmitted to us when we eat the foods grown in those gardens that is not properly washed, ie. raw right from the garden. Proper washing of the produce as well as cooking can do much to limit yuour exposure.
Time is one method of limiting exposure also since the potential disease pathogens and or intestinal worms will die off over the long term, just as most of the disease pathogens found in other animal manures die off.


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RE: Fixing raised-bed soil from dog poop?

Unless the dogs have parasites, they can't produce poop with parasites.

Ringworm is a skin fungus, not an intestinal parasite, so it's not an issue.

E. coli isn't going to be much of a problem after drying in the SoCal sun. (I'm a microbiologist, we studied parasites).

I wouldn't worry about it.


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RE: Fixing raised-bed soil from dog poop?

Thanks for the replies. I do really appreciate it.

Is there something I could add to the soil that will make the soil less risky, but not totally kill the nutrients? Something like Vinegar? Or a store-bought bacterial/parasite killer?

Since my soil has many earthworms, I was planning on adding a lot more, plus pouring in a lot of beneficial nematodes and any other beneficial insects/critters and just waiting until 3 or 4 months (January or February) to plant stuff. I'd water the soil 2 times a week and till it at some point.

I read something about solarizing the soil to rid the harmful bacteria, but since it's winter approaching, I don't think it'll get hot enough for weeks to be effective.


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RE: Fixing raised-bed soil from dog poop?

I stopped being so worried about dog poop when I realized that almost any yard that has had dogs living in it has had lots of poop added to the soil. If dog poop was as dangerous as some people think then we (dog owners) would all be dead.

Don't worry about it.

Nancy


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RE: Fixing raised-bed soil from dog poop?

What about just turning the soil over a few times over the winter to expose more of it to winter rains/sunshine?


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RE: Fixing raised-bed soil from dog poop?

As a kid, we used to throw frozen dog doo at each other in the winter. Some of it would make it inside and melt.

I lived to adulthood.


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RE: Fixing raised-bed soil from dog poop?

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Not a major disaster. Just don't advertise. People get weirded out.

That fine So Cal Sun and dry climate went a long way to mitigating anything living in there.

If you really want to be pro-active, liven up the soil as much as possible with living compost, organic material and so on. Mushrooms and bugs will be good signs that that's happening. Active soil is a happy thing.

Yes, the worms are your friends. They will eat the bad and return good. Shield the raised bed from coming winter rains and when the rains saturate the ground, the worms will come up in your raised bed big time if they can get past the weed cloth. Mix in some coffee grounds so they'll be well fed. I had compost bins on pavers and it happened every time the winter rains came - worm city.

Don't let it dry out (the winds are here aren't they?) and don't drown it.

If I were you though, I'd just assume avoid doing that again.

to sense
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RE: Fixing raised-bed soil from dog poop?

Time is the cure, along with maintaining adequate levels of organic matter in your soil. Estimates by the Center for Disease Control indicate that one in six of us get food poisoning each year. Many cases do not get reported because they are very short term and/or because people think they have the "24 hour flu". Many cases that are seen by doctors go unreported because no feces samples are sent in to be tested. Many people just would not rather believe that this problem exists.


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RE: Fixing raised-bed soil from dog poop?

it's not going to affect the edibility of above ground crops especially if you compost you your gardens, just wash your hands carefully after gardening, for below ground crops washing and cooking should suffice, but put your cat/dog dropping around flower garden annuals.

len

Here is a link that might be useful: lens garden page


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RE: Fixing raised-bed soil from dog poop?

Dog doo shouldn't be used because of the high salts in it - It can burn plants.


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