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Posted by Krensgarden z4 WI (My Page) on Thu, Mar 3, 05 at 13:17
| Our addiction started out innocently. Really. I was just a kid, picking rocks here on the farm every spring, enjoying it very much. After my father would contemptuosly toss them on the rock pile, I would return there and poke around. All the different colors, textures, shapes; fascinating. My bedroom dresser had 'pretty' rocks displayed on top, tho my mother had to curb the collection when the top started to sag.
Occasionally, my brother who was 13 years older than me would go to the local abandoned quarry to swim with his friends after chores. Sometimes he would take me along, and those times remain as my favorite memory. He would be swimming, having a good time, and I would be wandering around the quarry, marveling at the stone formations, looking for Fool's Gold and feeling like I was on another planet. The part of the county we live in is very flat, but the quarry was exotic, with hills and deep water- filled ponds leftover from excavation. In retrospect, no, it's not a very safe place for a small kid to be running around in, and today, that same quarry is posted and off-limits to everyone, but back in the early 60's when lawsuits weren't so prevalent, it was the place to go for many folks. Every time I drive by that quarry, I have to fight the desire to trespass, but I've been good, and have stayed away for the last 25 years.
Then, I met a boy from the neighborhood whose uncle owned a quarry 3 miles in the other direction from 'mine'. We got married, bought an acre from my dad and built a house in the alfalfa field. Time went by; his uncle sold the quarry, I became a stay-at-home mom and we became very interested in gardening. Plants and stones go beautifully together, so my childhood collection was put to good use. We exhausted the supply of rocks from my home farm and appealed to the neighbors who didn't care as long as we respected their crops. My father did, though! "What in the world are you doing bringing all that stone home? I've been trying for years to clear this land and you haul it back?" I assured him it wasn't something I was doing to torture him, and he grudgingly gave in. A little.
The stone we collected from the local piles was mostly fieldstone. Then we decided some flat stone walls would be a good idea. There is still one inactive quarry about 10 miles from our home that allows people to pick rocks by hand. Just drive up on the scale and weigh in, load yourself up, weigh out, and go pay. Two years ago, the price was a cheap $3 a ton; this year it took a jump to $20....the employee says stone is more in demand now. We hauled ton after ton home for over 10 years behind the Buick from that quarry and also our local landfill. Limestone is very close to the surface in the city and excavators digging new homes would have to blast and the stone was hauled to the dump. So, every chance we got, we loaded up the boys, hooked up the trailer and headed to the dump. I'm a cheap date.
Five years ago the high school addition was built and the construction crew had to blast for weeks and weeks. We would go there at night and stand behind the yellow Danger: Construction! tape and drool. The police patrolled the area closely, it was a liability. Piles of limestone of every size as far as you could see. The solution the city came up with was to dig a huge hole and bury all that gorgeous rock. Torture!
The boys became fascinated with, what else? Quarries & rocks. They loved to dig holes in the backyard, we gave up on the sandbox, our whole yard is sand. And then we decided to embark on a crazy venture of our own. If you can't go and play in the quarries any more, then let's build a fake one here at home. This saga ain't over yet. I am interested in knowing if anyone else here at the GW has had similar experiences and what you did to obtain your stone. I'll post more about the adventure if there's any interest. Thank you!
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| We bought our little farm a few years ago and since then I've been collecting field stones from all the neighborhood farmers for use in my gardens. At first they all thought I was totally crazy but the good news is that they now have started delivering all the neat rocks they find in their fields right to our house. I don't even have to go searching for them anymore! They get a kick out of seeing what I'm going to do next with their field stones. By the way, I was always dragging rocks home as a kid too, I guess it was a sign of things to come. :-) |
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Hello FlowersForMyFarm, I had to laugh, the same thing happens here: the neighbor brings me his rocks by the wagonload and tells me to give him a call when it's unloaded. When he's picking stones on our farm which he rents, we'll go out and help him. He thinks we are nuts though. He calls us the 'Flintstones' and says we like to make work for ourselves. But, just like my late father, I think he's conceding a little bit that the rocks do look OK when they're placed. I've also seen other farmers put their haywagons full of rocks out by the road with a 'FREE' sign on them, the rocks don't last long, somebody always takes them. You're in WI, too...hmmmm....we live near Green Bay; maybe we have picked rocks in the same areas, lol! What part of the state are you in? |
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Wow! The two of you are lucky! I do stone carving as a hobby and hope to turn it into a self sustaining hobby by selling some of the pieces; I have to go to a stone yard and PAY $100 a ton for stone and that is the cheap sandstone. I live on a big mound of clay with stones that are no larger than a tennis ball that the last iceage left behind. I too pick them up and use them in the garden. I would give anything to be near an area like that, except for my moderate climate. I guess it is a give and take world!LOL Krensgarden that was a very enjoyable story, if there is more I would love to read it. |
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| Right about now I'd happily trade all my rocks for a warmer climate, it's snowing AGAIN!!! We're going to Disney next week though so I think I'll be okay, I can get away from it for awhile. :-) I've never picked rocks near Green Bay but we've got relatives in that area....I'll have to keep an eye out next time we're up that way. We're in southern WI. |
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Hi Matteow, And I envy you your moderate climate! Though I really don't know what I would do w/o rocks, that would be a tough one. ;-) Your stone carving sounds fascinating, it's something we'd like to try someday. Do you have any pics of your work? I'm working on Chap. 2 of the rock saga; stayed tuned--- |
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Well, continuing with the saga: In August of 2002, Carl, my DH, asked me what I thought about building our own quarry. His projects are always big; he's an optimist, I'm a pessimist, but if it's got to do w/rocks, OK, I'm in, I guess. I'm a stay at home mom and wouldn't change that for the world, but money is ALWAYS an issue. And rocks, especially big ones, are not cheap. We do everything ourselves, necessity is the mother of invention and we've invented some pretty bizarre things around here. And how about digging the hole? In the past we have dug everything around by hand with a trailer behind the Murray lawnmower; clearly he was delusional if he thought we could dig something that size by hand. I mean, yeah, we have two boys who love to dig in the sand, but c'mon get a grip. Carl says, "Oh, don't worry about that, we'll figure something out." uh-huh...I've heard that line before. We know a basement contractor, C, who had just built a new home. We had 20 Colorado blue spruce trees about 12’ tall in the area where the quarry was going to go in, so we asked C if he would dig the hole in exchange for the trees. He agreed. Things moved painfully slow after that. Contractors are always busy and this was a side job for him, so not high priority. After many phone calls, and us renting a tree spade, (which is a story in itself—a 1970 Chevy truck with a bad front end that swayed all over the road at any speed over 20 mph, earning us no popularity contests on the highway) the trees started leaving our yard. Then the big day arrived about 2 months later,Oct. 17, 2002, C the Excavator came to dig the hole. I kept the boys home from school, it ain’t every day (try never!) that we had work done for us by an actual machine. C arrived at 7AM and by noon and 37 dump trucks of sandy dirt later, he was done. Wow, were we impressed…..that would have taken us 10 years. The pond filled in naturally from the ground water we hit and now we had a hole. But, no rocks. Hmmmmm……..Now what? We called quarries looking for what, around here, is known as ‘blast’ which is simply the rock chunks resulting from the blasting process. Yes, they had some big stuff, but no, they don’t haul it. I called C back. "Hey, what do you think we can do about rocks?" "I don’t know," he said. "I do work with the quarry eight miles from you, but they’re pretty touchy about who they let in there to dig around. I guess you’re on your own." I called around, looking for rock haulers. Rocks the size we wanted, ranging in weight from approximately 1000 to 4000 pounds, are incredibly hard on dump trucks. There is a special ‘rock’ box they can put in the truck, but a lot of haulers don’t have them. Finally I found a contractor who said he’d be willing to go to the quarry for us. I told him what we were looking for, he said, "Well, I ain’t gonna handpick the rock for you, whatever they scoop up out of the stuff that’s too big to go in the crusher will be what you get." Ok. The first seven dump truck loads, approximately 100 tons total, arrived in November and on the very first load, the dumptruck box had a hole punched in it from the impact of the rocks. What a mess this stone was! All sizes of rock, from gravel to 4000 pounds. We got as many pallets as we could find and loaded the smaller stones by sizes on the pallets. The really small ones, I pitched on a trailer, usually 3 tons a day, and dumped on our lane for fill. The really big ones we chained to our 52 horse farm tractor and dragged home down the lane. We have forklift teeth on the tractor, which can lift about 3000 pounds maximum, so each rock the tractor could lift, we took turns driving home the ¼ mile one at a time. Lots of trips! By this time the weather was getting terrifically cold, the days were getting very short, and winter was coming on. Here’s some pics of the process to this point. 
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| And then what happened??? Don't just leave us hanging like this! |
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Well, OK! Here we go again. I worked on the rock piles every day while Carl was at work, digging through them, looking for the biggest rocks and hauling them down to the quarry site. ( I may have forgotten to mention we live on my family farm and I had been having the stone unloaded at my mother's house a quarter mile up the road. We had the trucks dump the loads on the old concrete cowyard as there was no access for dumptrucks near our project. That was why it took so long to get the rocks from the pile to the jobsite, we had to drive them home.) It was just like Christmas when I'd pitch off a whole bunch of small rocks and gravel and hit something big in the pile with my crowbar. Hooking up the chain to the exposed end, I'd pull ahead slowly with the tractor and wait to see the size of the rock I was dealing with. When the tractor couldn't pull it, I knew we had a big one! Carl would call home on his lunch hour and ask anxiously how many rocks I found in the pile that day. See, we really should get a life, I know, but these are rocks! Anyway... Every night when Carl got home from work and the boys got home from school, we'd go out and place rocks in the quarry. Joel was 15 and Dave was 11. It took a long time to place just one; we had to drag the rock close enough with the tractor and then use crowbars and blocks to 'walk' the rock over by hand to the finished position. We'd be lucky if two got placed a night. The days are so short in November, we put a lightbulb up on a pole and worked in the dim light until we couldn't feel our feet or fingers any more. Then it was time to quit. That year was a mild winter for Wisconsin, and the ground didn't really freeze solid until around the first week in December. We had to give up for the year, the rocks were frozen down and the sand was impossible to shovel. It sure was hard to quit, though, this was a dream coming true. The following spring, late March 2003, we got going again. Most of the big stones were already used up and Carl was starting to get nervous. He substituted with stone from the pallets here and there, but this wasn't the look he was going for. We also knew we didn't have nearly enough rock to finish this thing. I called the rock hauler again; he wasn't as happy to hear from me as the last time; (remember the hole in his truck?) but said he'd probably be able to get at it in about 3 weeks. As luck would have it, C the Excavator stopped in with his family the next day to see how things were going. "Why are you using such small rocks, Carl? I thought you wanted big stuff?" We assured him we certainly did want the 'big stuff' but told him about the near impossibility of acquiring it without getting the assorted flotsam and jetsam of gravel and small stones. We paid $3.50 per ton for the 120 tons of stone plus delivery, but alot of the tonnage was in the gravel and small stuff. Still, we felt it was a bargain. Our 'quarry project' interested C, who has an absolutely palatial home and wanted landscaping to match. He's also a do-it-yourselfer, although he has the big equipment we lack. (When he saw how we moved the stones, he just chuckled, we are an endless source of amusement to him.) "Well, I've been thinking about this project of yours and I'm going to be needing some big rock, too, for my own yard." (he was building a fantastic hillside garden in terraces) "How about I go to the quarry and load you up some one at a time? I'll just pick through the piles and load up whatever size you figure you can handle. I have a guy who owns his own dumptrucks and works with me; I'll load one for you and one for me. (C lives right next door to this huge quarry, lucky devil, and has done a lot of work for them whenever they need dirt moved off so they can blast again...they know him there) "If you want, you can come down to the quarry and kinda point at what you want, I guess, but stay in the car. There's rules about people being in there. And, I can use some more trees, how about you pay for the stone and the hauling and the trees will be my pay for loading?" It was a deal! A week later, the dumptruck pulled in loaded down with absolutely wonderful rock. No more gravel to dig around in, this was clean, big, rock. There was a complication, though. The dumptruck driver was not happy. This was hard on his equipment; he was right, it is. Very hard. C would pick up a very large rock with his excavator and just as gently as possible set it in the bed of the dumptruck, but still, there's an impact from even six inches in the air. His trucks were older and the boxes weren't in that great of shape anymore, and this wasn't helping matters any. C loaded until the rock was level w/the sides of the truck and he had about 20 tons on. It doesn't look like many rocks, really, but they do add up in weight. I picked the boys up after school and drove them to the quarry to watch C load up for us. They were thrilled; I told you, we are all certifiably nuts when it comes to stones. We'd get such a rush when the stone came rolling out of the back of the dumptruck, the noise and vibration are unbelievable. (yes, get a life, I know, ha.) "How many loads do you want?" the driver asked us. "Six," we replied. "SIX!" he yelled. "I already have a stiff neck from the truck hopping around when he drops them in.....! This is way too hard on the trucks. I'm gonna have a talk with C." Well, apparently, C kept him going, because we got the six loads that day. I jumped up on the running boards and paid the truck driver right on the spot; he seemed a bit happier, but not much. Some of the rock broke from the impact of hitting the ground, but we still had much nicer stuff this time around. Carl was thrilled, we went to work once again. But we were far from done. Here's a pic of Carl on one of the six piles of rock. More of the 'continuing saga' later. ;-) |
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Hi Jugglerguy, I went to your home page and saw your amazing photos! Your yard is beautiful, the changes you've made so far transform the area. You know we are rock-headed people here; my husband and I just have to hear the story about your big rocks on the end of your driveway. What's the story on those two? How much do they weigh? Did you know the loader operators? We sure hope you didn't have to pay for the time it took to get them 'unstuck'! Where did you get the rocks from, or is that a matter of confidentiality to protect your stash from other potential rockaholics? C'mon, these are questions just burning to be answered! Karen |
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| This is so much fun listening to your story. I feel like the normal one for a change! I have a thing for rocks, but you and your husband are nuts! We built our house about five years ago and had a blank slate to start from. I really like rocks and perennials, so I decided to get some rocks for our yard. My wife and I drove all over the county looking for a good place to get a bunch of rocks. We asked one farmer who was a real jerk and wanted to charge us $30 a rock. Most other farmers we didn't even ask because the rock piles tended to be in the middle of fields that were surrounded by crops. Some that we did talk to were glad to be rid of the rocks, but the time that the fields were going to be cut didn't work out well for us. We finally found some in a field owned by our doctor who is also really good friends of my wife's parents. We had our excavator haul a dump truck load of boulders that were anywhere from 1.5 ft to 4 ft in diameter. We hired a landscaper to have them placed in our yard where the perennial bed is now. I've been gradually landscaping more and more of our yard over the past few years. Last summer I started doing the other side of the driveway from where the perennial bed with the rocks is. That side of the driveway was nothing but lawn and looked un balanced from the other side. I put in a new bed and rolled some of the smaller rocks over from the perennial bed, but they looked really small. I posted a picture on the "Design" forum here and was advised that it would be better to have one big rock rather than a bunch of small rocks. I really didn't want to spend a ton of money having boulders hauled in from somewhere, so I just sort of decided that wasn't an option. Then I found them. I'm a junior high math teacher. The school I work at is just down the road. There's a large field (owned by the school) that isn't being used for anything right at the end of our street. I was taking a walk throught the field one day and noticed two large rocks that I'd seen before but never really paid any attention to. The city owned the property that the school is on before the school purchased it. I'm guessing that the city dumped these rocks there at one time because they were with a pile of old concrete that had been dumped there. When I saw these rocks, I immediately wanted them. After checking with the science department (my wife for one!), I found out that they had no use for that kind of rock. I asked the principal if I could have them and expected her to have to check with someone higher up, but she said, "Rob, I think we need to get rid of those rocks, go ahead and take them." After I picked my jaw up from the floor, I rememberd to say thank you. Ok, so now it's August and I have permission to take these rocks, but I needed someone to move them. There's a house being built across the road from the rock field and I had noticed a very large loader working there. It didn't take me long to put the puzzle pieces together. I talked to the excavator (is it customary to give them a letter? Let's call him "K"), and we looked at the rocks together. I told him I had a ditch that he'd have to drive through, but he said he didn't need to see it. He told me he'd be at my house the week after labor day. He also told me it would cost about $100 but no more than $200. So labor day weekend I dug two holes in the yard to place the rocks into. A week passed and no K. After about three I decided to call him. He said he'd be there next week. We played that game several more times through the fall but he never showed up. I had been hoping to do it in the fall when the ground was drier or in the early winter when the ground had frozen but we didn't have much snow so that the damage to my lawn would be less. While I was waiting for him to show up, it snowed a foot or two and I just sort of gave up until spring. Then in February we had a thaw and I started thinking about the holes in the lawn (the neighbors thought we were going to bury someone there I think). I called K and asked him if he was interested in doing the job or if I should start looking for someone else by spring. He asked me if I was available the next day. The next day was Saturday, so I said I was. The next morning I got up early and dug the snow out of the holes. I re-leveled the ground since my son had been using the area as a sand box for a couple months before it snowed. I got out the snow blower and made a path through the snowbank from the road to the lawn so he could get through easier. I still wasn't convinced that he would actually show up though. And then he did. Wow. He had a loader with a 8.5 ft wide bucket on it. He spent a little while getting the rock loose since it was frozen to the ground. He picked up the first rock by slipping about 6 inches of the bucket underneath and putting a strap around the front. The majority of the rock was hanging out in front of the bucket. Then he drove it down the road to my house. He got to the ditch and informed me that if he went through the ditch with that much weight on the front, it would tip forward and he wouldn't be able to get up the other side. Now what? The only way was to drive on my blacktop driveway. He didn't think his loader would damage it because it was frozen underneath, but no guarantees. I ran to the basement and grabbed a sheet of plywood and a sheet of OSB to protect the edge of the driveway at least. He also had to get the other rock to take in first so he dropped the first one on the side of the road. He got the other one and proceded across the lawn which slopes toward the ditch. He placed the rock and then slid sideways into the ditch. After spinning a hole about a foot deep, he was stuck. In front was a snow covered hill. Behind was a small stone retaining wall around my culvert and that other really big rock. After some walking around and head scratching he left to get another loader. We took pictures with my son in the loader while he was gone. He came back with a HUGE loader. The tires were about 6 feet tall. It was 12 feet wide. He was supposed to have a permit to even drive it on the road because it was so wide, but of course he didn't have one. I can't believe the power that thing had. He pulled the first loader sideways to turn it around. Then while he was pulling it backwards out of the ditch, he was yelling at his buddy (who was in the smaller loader) to put in in reverse, since the wheels weren't turning as it was being pulled out of the ditch. When he got done placing the other rock, I was afraid to ask how much this was going to cost me. I couldn't believe that he actually stuck to the price he had quoted me about 6 months before. Two hundred bucks. I was thrilled. Now we're waiting for spring when we're having our house number engraved in the larger rock. I've been thinking about what to plant around it for the last few weeks. So that's the story of the rocks in my yard. Sometime, I'll tell you about the stone path I built, but right now my fingers are too sore! |
Here is a link that might be useful: Pictures of my yard and rocks
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Jugglerguy, Is there such a thing as 'normal' with us rock people? ha! The addiction starts out slowly, doesn't it? Thank you for your story on those big rocks. Finding them that close to home was a great bonus, and the fact they were free was even better! Hope your driveway survived the abuse, they were a pair of very big machines toting one big rock. They certainly make a statement in your landscape, and the placement is great! I'll bet you're glad they finally arrived. I had to laugh when I read about your contractor waiting process. Your contractor 'K' is like our contractor 'C'...they get around to it when they have the time. The waiting can be agonizing, as you well know. You realize they are very busy people with more on their mind and plates than getting us nutty people rocks to play with, but the sort-of promise statement, "Yeah, I'll get around to that in a coupla weeks" is like telling your kids, "We'll see," or "Go ask your mother" when they desperately want permission to do something. I do believe contractors have good intentions, I think they are just too busy working all day, construction is very hard work. I know C's day starts out way before dawn in the warm months and ends long after dark. He is always booked far in advance and then the rush/emergency job comes up. The man needs a secretary, he was digging our pond with this huge excavator, directing the dumptruck drivers and talking on his cellphone all at the same time. He dug our pond, loaded up the excavator on the semi and left the machine running, because the next jobsite was only 3 miles away and he didn't want to take the time to restart it. I use his first initial only because he is in the EPP. (The Excavator Protection Program.) "Don't tell ANY more of your rock buddies about me! I don't need any more harrassment from you crazies!" He's right. I would call him way too often. Wait a week, no word, two weeks, ok, gotta call him. "C? it's.." I would start. "Yeah, I know who this is! Karen. Who else? And you want to know when you can get your rocks. I know. I'm three weeks behind due to the rain, take a number." He was just kidding. He likes us. Really. More later! |
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| I wasn't so worried about when K would show up, but I was worried if he would show up. I made the mistake of telling him that I wasn't in a big hurry. I did say I wanted it done by early winter though. I know how busy those guys are and how insignificant my project was to him, so I didn't want to put a lot of pressure on him. I forgot that you asked how much the rock weighed. K's helper just said that it was in the tons, so that isn't much help. When he placed the larger rock, he picked it up from the end so that it was sticking out the front of the bucket the long way with only a little bit of the bucket actually underneath. The rest was supported by a strap. When the loader was loaded this way, the back wheels were bouncing off the ground even moving at very slow speeds. This is the loader with the 8.5 ft. wide bucket. I think K's helper told me it was a three yard bucket. As for the driveway, it came out of it fine. My nice new plywood has some nasty tire tracks on it though! |
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| Hi Rob, We're glad the price didn't change for the work and your driveway didn't sustain any damage; but the plywood will never be the same! Bet your son enjoyed the big equipment. That is one BIG rock alright. The stone engraver's make housecalls, right? ;-) Speaking of big rocks & what folks will do to get them: Jim, a friend of our excavator operator, was about 60 miles from home on business when he came upon road construction and a rock in distress. A gigantic granite boulder had been unearthed by the crew and a heavy crane operator and a quarry truck had been called in to haul it out. (those are big trucks, like your loader with the 6' tall tires) However, one of the truck's axles broke leaving it stranded in the middle of the road. Jim hopped out of his car and asked if he could have the rock. The road crew looked at him oddly, but OK, if you want it, buddy, it's yours, just get it out of here. Jim called a trucking firm and requested a semi be sent to where he was (he has connections that we don't, obviously!) When the truck arrived, he hired the crane operator to load it for him and also to follow the semi back to his house for unloading. So the caravan hits the road, Jim's car in the lead. Sixty miles later it arrives at Jim's house. Ok. Hmmmmm...now where did he want to put this thing? The semi and crane drivers were on the clock, time is ticking. He decided to have it put in the middle of his front lawn, but wasn't sure if he wanted it there permanently, could the rigging from the crane stay on it for awhile so he could move it again? (with what we don't know) The crane guy said sure, for $2000, the cost of the straps. Ok, well, skip that idea. Just put it on the lawn. When Jim's wife heard the cost of this rock (well, he says around $2500, but in reality he paid a 'bit' more than that) she flipped. No one knows the exact weight of this behemoth, it is huge, and only Jim knows the exact cost, and he's not telling. Seven years later, there it is, all alone in the middle of Jim's lawn, surrounded by a small sea of plastic edging and landscape fabric covered w/white marble chips. No plantings of any kind surround it, but thankfully, no pink flamingos either! Is there a moral to this story? No. I just wanted to let you know there are crazier people out there than us. Sigh. |
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My name is Anne-Marie and I am a rock addict....:) I've been bringing home rocks from my travels for many years. At first it was only ones that would fit in the saddlebags of my motorcycle, then in the hatches of my kayak. I have rocks from all over N. America in my garden and alpine troughs. Then when I bought my home and started landscaping the grounds I wanted BIGGER rocks and started hauling them home from the countryside in my pickup. Fortunately, I met a man that shares my addiction and now we cruise the country roads together, with a truck, motorcyle trailer with ramps and comealongs to drag the larger and larger rocks home. We have devised some pretty ingenious ways to move those suckers at times. The neighbours drive by (in their large tractors) and think we are certifiable. Occasionally, they take pity on us and take time from their busy workday to stop and ask "Can we help you move that?" H**LL YES! and Thankyou! The only problem is, the more rocks you have, the more you want. We have resorted to buying a few, really large ones of Bruce Pennisula rock (beautiful limestone,ledgerock with pockets and holes) but then had to wait all winter for a neighbour women to come and move it for us with her Bobcat. That seems to be a common problem amongst us "rock people". |
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| Hi Anne-Marie! Welcome to the rock addict support group. So what are some of your rock moving methods? I built a rock path a couple years ago and am thinking about building some more. The rocks I move are all rollable by hand, but I've passed up some that are a little bigger. My method is to just roll them up a 2x12 into the back of my Jeep. I really need to get a trailer, but I don't have a good place to store one. Is there a trick to moving a rock with a come-along? Do you have a special cable connecting technique or do you just wrap it around the best you can? |
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Hi Jugglerguy-I looked at your rock path on your site; very nice. We don't really have any set method for moving our rocks. We make it up as we go-every situation seems to require a different trick. We don't wrap the comealong cable directly around the rock-puts too much pressure on the mechanism and makes it hard to release. We use an engine strap (one of those wide nylon straps used for lifting engines) to wrap around rocks and a peice of chain with a big hook on the end to attach the comealong. A trailer is nice, especially a motorcyle trailer, because it is so much lower to the ground than a pickup box-or Jeep. We've been known to use the trailer ramps as a bridge across a ditch to roll a rock down the embankment, across our bridge and use the comealong from a electric pole to drag it up the other side. Then move the comealong to drag it onto the trailer using the ramp again. Another useful tool is several big pieces of old carpet. If you can get the rock onto the carpet, it will drag along the ground easier and not rip up your lawn as much. Or a piece of plywood etc. We try to keep from scratching the rock up as much as possible too and use the carpet pieces to protect the rocks from picking up paint off the trailer bottom. We have a little dump trailer that hooks up to the tractor lawn mower and have used the comealong to drag a rock into the trailer with it in the up postion. The weight of the rock forces the trailer down and we quickly wedge a peice of 2x4 under the back end of the trailer while we're hooking it down to keep it from slamming up again. Then just drive off the 2x4. Oh yeah, it's IMPORTANT to keep track of where your fingers and toes are at all times! Constant communication! We haven't damaged any appendages yet...or our relationship. haha Rock moving is kinda like home renovations...it will either ruin your relationship or make it stronger! :) |
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Hi, fellow support group persons! I'm glad to hear other folks work together to get rocks and how you go about getting them, we are not alone, Rob! You're right about the communication thing: moving big stones can be hazardous to your health, and as you said, sometimes your relationships. We too would be at a loss if it weren't for the comealongs on rock expeditions. Very handy to have! Our car trailer's plywood bottom is in pretty bad shape, too many rocks pulled across it. When the leaf springs are flat, it's time to quit and haul 'er on home. This is a picture of the spring 2003 progress in the quarry garden just before we got started again.
In the following pic, we started placing rocks in the water for a waterfall base, our son is in the water directing the rock as it is lowered in place by our wrecker. All rockaholics should have one of these! We found this hand crank 1920's era 'Manley Wrecking Crane' rusting out in a junkyard and bought it for $70, put a trailer under it--one tire off our '67 Buick the other off our old haybaler--and it was good to go. This little wrecker has done more lifting than any other piece of equipment we have. The wrecker is rated for 3000 pounds maximum; we've pushed it farther than that too many times.
Speaking of moving rocks; here's one we found across the road in the woods. The top 6 inches were exposed and my son dug down as far as he could with a shovel, he figured it was a big one. He was right. The guys hooked chains around the bottom and top and connected the two chains to a 150' cable. Then I hooked our tractor up and pulled; the wheels were spinning; we needed our other tractor hooked on too. It took both tractors to get this one out of the hole and thru the woods into the ditch. We couldn't drag it over the road without damaging the blacktop, so the wrecker to the rescue, once again. We estimate the weight of this rock to be 7000 pounds; Carl put a chain comealong from the top of the wrecker to the tractor to lift the stone higher off the ground; the tires on the wrecker were fully inflated, but looked flat, even with a counterweight hunk of limestone on the front of the wrecker to give the tractor traction, it wasn't enough. When we hooked up the comealong the front end of the tractor came off the ground, the only way to steer was with the brakes. We hooked the second tractor back on to my tractor and towed the whole contraption to where we wanted the rock to go. (For once, we actually knew where that location was, a first for us.) We call the rock Iceberg and planted hosta Titanic in front of it.... ;-) Here's a pic:
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| Karen, your quarry is just about the coolest thing I've ever seen. Is that the rock you pulled out of the woods to the left of the tractor in the middle picture? Anne-Marie, do you have any pictures to share with us? Come on, we showed you ours, you have to show us yours! Rob |
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| Yes, Anne-Marie, we look forward to seeing pictures of your projects! The way you described acquiring rock from the 'wild' is so familiar to us I had to laugh. We've smuggled stone home in the canoes too. Makes for interesting ballast in white water, doesn't it? Rob, the rock to the left of the tractor isn't the one from the woods. You know how most women like wedding anniversary gifts (especially the 25th?) to be a big deal, maybe a big 'rock' to put on their finger? Well, my husband bought me a rock so big I can't wear it; it has to sit out in the yard. On our 25th wedding anniversary we went to celebrate by going (where else?) to that inactive quarry we frequent. I told you, I'm a cheap date....anyway, there it was, sitting all alone in a stand of weeds next to a broken down dumptruck. This rock must have been too big for the crusher and was so nicely aged w/no scars, my eyes got all misty and Carl knew he had the perfect gift for me. Between the two of us and the comealong we were able to load it on the trailer. We strapped the rock down and headed for the scale. My Anniversary Rock weighed in at 1800 pounds, take that Liz Taylor! I don't know the equivalent carat weight in diamonds, but I'm sure it is very impressive....;-) Just an aside here to those folks thinking about hauling rocks for the first time...you know that warning, "Don't Try This at Home" you see on TV sometimes when a guy is going to jump off a 20 story building with a motorcycle into a bucket of Lime Jello? Ok, good. Here's my warning: To all Rock Addicts: Please, for your safety and those who share the road with you, make sure the rocks you load are secured on or in your vehicle or trailer good and tight. We almost ended up with a one ton granite boulder in the backseat once after a deer ran out in front of us causing a panic stop; the rock slipped the ratchet straps and came forward, hitting the front gate on the trailer and breaking it; the trailer tongue hit the ground, and the Mighty Buick's front end came off the ground. Whew! We were *very* lucky that's all that happened. Now we make certain every rock is tied down with multiple ratchet straps and/or blocked with wood extremely securely. We want all you rockhounds back home safe and sound with your trophies! |
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| It good to know I'm not crazy. I travel alot for work and look forward to side trips that allow me to go rock hunting. My wife has told me she wants to do a crocidile hunter type documentery on my escapades. I have a Nissan Sentra, so I'm limited to the size of rock I can get. I just found this site a few days ago, and I already feel at home. |
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| Welcome Whip1! I can see the title of your documentary now: "Intrepid Rock Hunter Spots Quarry" lol No, you're not the only rock crazy person-we're certifiably nuts about 'em here. I'm looking forward to hearing tales of your escapades with your Nissan! Karen |
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| I am so glad I found this thread....I think my hubby is ready to have me committed!! I go rock hunting everywhere....then I noticed this blasting site with mountains of blasted stone. I did what any any normal person would do....innocently knocked over the no trespass sign and loaded up on rocks! I pulled in one day to find a pickup parked there with an older woman looking at the fallen sign....I asked if the land was hers, and she said..."I'm sorry, I just needed a few rocks for my garden." She thought that I owned it!!! We then laughed about how a friend of hers referred her to the site after building her stonewall from the stolen stones. My husband calls me a criminal, but I say you can never have too many rocks....unless of course you own the site that i've been swiping them from. I'm doing them a favor!!! |
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| Welcome pigpenpond! I'm glad to hear you found a great stash-what projects are you working on with the new rocks? It's fun to meet another rock addict! ;-) Karen |
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| The other day i was out hunting. I found this rather large rock. I wrestled it to the car, got it loaded and decided it would not be a good idea to take it home in my trunk. The back of the car seem to be a little low. I put it back away from the road and settled for some of his smaller brothers. |
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Karen: fascinating thread. What does it look like in 2005? Geesh, this is really interesting. Leigh-Ann |
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I just love these stories, and yes, I am addicted, too. And my oh my, I have ROCK ENVY!!!! Over the years we have collected many rocks which I have used around flower beds. In my area, rocks are not plentiful nor are they large. Mostly about a foot across. I used them to turn a cistern into a Koi pond. Now that my husband passed away, I am selling my home, and trying to figure out how to take my fish and rocks with me. Forget all the furniture and stuff, I CAN'T leave my rocks!
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ButterflyBush, I know what you mean about not wanting to leave your rocks. My DB and SIL bought my GM's house and don't like rocks. I took some very large rocks to my house and did some landscaping with them. Now when we moved in December, I told DH I was going back to get the rocks. Luckily, my nephew and his GF moved into my old house, so I can go back and get them. DH says to leave them there but I don't want to. I better get over there before nephew's GF gives them to somebody. They only rent, but she thinks she can do whatever the HE!! she wants. But that's another story!! LOL Sheree |
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It sure is good to hear from other people who love rocks, too. I agree, the thought of leaving the rocks behind would be almost unbearable. Your pond is beautiful, Butterfly Bush. Here's a picture taken last week of the quarry garden. We have had alot of rain, so the water is quite high. We're still working on this garden, it's gonna take a few years at least to mature. However, the weeds are very mature!
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| Karen, that's the best picture of your quarry yet. I'm so amazed that your family did all of that. Here, I'm the only one obsessed enough to move the rocks around. I did get my kids to put moss between the rocks on a couple short, new paths I build this summer. My son took a lot of pride in his work. Rob |
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| Karen, your place is just beautiful. And BB, I love your pond. Nice to hear about other rock addicts. Every time I dig a hole I find another rock. We've built a few small retaining walls, one flat rock that was too big to move has become a favourite spot to sit and rest and admire the view, a few other big ones have been left as decorative features, and there are quite a few spares waiting for me to come up with my next idea. It can be so frustrating, like trying to assemble a jigsaw puzzle with no one single right solution, but it's so addictive. |
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| Karen, I'm not a rock addict, because of the size of my city property. Wow, your rock/pond garden is beautiful. You and your family must be very proud of the results. |
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| All I can say is Amazing. What a beautiful beautiful amazing rock quarry. I am sure you are so proud of all your hard work. It is just beautiful. Wow! |
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Well, thank you! A bit of an update here: We have had some very hot temps and no rain for over a month, (along with the rest of the country) and the water level has dropped almost 3' in the quarry pond. We now have a quarry 'puddle'. ;-) We're working at putting more stone in the bottom of the pond so when the water levels go down there isn't so much shore visible. Luckily we still have some stone out in the field to use. We're also starting another project, attempting to build a stone 'cottage' for a potting shed as soon as the weather cools off a bit. We have over 100 pallets of much smaller flat limestone leftover from the quarry garden and we got the bright idea to build something else. So far, July 8th, we have poured the foundation. Here our son Joel is putting various types of leaves into the wet cement, happy to report it worked out very well.
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| Thanks for sharing the pictures. I can't get over how wonderful the quarry is. We live near a creek and that is where I get rocks for my different "little" things in the yard.(-: I can't even imagine how much work was involved in your project. It is so beautiful. You should be featured on HGTV. |
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| i have passed this post 1,000 times. curiosity got me! now, i wish i would have stopped in earlier, as i couldn't open some of the earlier photos. they must be gone. unbelieveable! what an awesome family project. i, too, have always loved a good rock! keep this thread open, as it's great! aa |
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Hi there-- I've been lurking intermittently for the past few months. Insanity loves company, LOL! My house was built on land that was formerly a large farm, and since this is New England I expect to find stones when I dig in the garden. But last year, what should I find about 12" below the present grade but several HUGE stones butted up against one another--and a rusty strand of barbed wire. EUREKA! part of the boundary wall from the old farm. Since then I have stumbled upon other fragments here and there. Apparently when the land was developed, whatever stones weren't used to make small retaining walls around the daylight basement were left in place, and fill added on top. Thought my fellow stone collectors would appreciate the irony! (I am building a wall in the garden along the street--so hope to eventually get all those "originals" transplanted) |
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| LOVE IT - LOVE IT - LOVE IT!!!!! Your writing is terrific and the pics I'm sure don't do it justice. Thanks so much for sharing in such a fun way. Everyone else who has shared their rock insanity - nice to know I've got cousins. If you've ever seen the Lucille Ball movie, The Long Long Trailer, you'll understand why my DH calls me "LUCY" now and then. |
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| sequoia54 and Aunt Net, thank you so much and glad you enjoyed reading about our insanity. Sounds like you have stumbled upon a goldmine with the buried rocks. "One's man junk is another man's treasure" has never been more true than when speaking of collecting stones. ;-) Hope you will share some pics with us too! Update on the rock mania around here: we finally started buiding that round stone cottage a week and a half ago, oh boy. This is a challenge almost bigger than building the quarry was, at least in terms of 'getting it right'. I'll post some pics as soon as we have something to look at, it's very s.l.o.w.... going. Thanks again! Karen |
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| I just found this website, and this forum. Gardening with stone - gosh, I think I've found a home! My non-"gardening with stone" friends think I'm insane. krensgarden and butterfly bush - thank you for sharing your pictures. That quarry is amazing!!! hmmm, it's inspiring me ... |
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| Krensgarden - that is so impressive! |
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Just taking a peek to see if you added more pics, and sure enough you did. I am so amazed at what you and your family have accomplished. KUDOS!!! I will not grumble anymore about laying piddly little flagstone. How is the stone cottage coming along? Hope you post some pics of in in progress, those are always so interesting to see how a project comes together. Thanks for sharing. Aunt Net |
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Hi Aunt Net, Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed those pictures. Flagstone? Do you have any pictures of your projects you'd like to share? I know how hard that job is too. We're still working on the stone house and the progress is slow but sure. Trouble is winter will soon be upon us, so I don't think we're going to get too much more done before the snow flies. This is our first time out with mortaring stone and we have a long way to go, hopefully to 7' tall. (I wonder how many years (decades?) this will take? :-) Here's some pictures of the job so far. That's our masonry supervisor, Teddy the dog, checking our work back in September.
Here's the inside of the building: And here's two of the most recent pictures of the outside taken the first week in October, I'm in the background searching for a rock and Carl and David are mortaring. When the guys are gone to work and school, I dry fit stone during the day so there's some wall ready to mortar when they get home. It's sort of like a giant jigsaw puzzle with the pieces spread out all over the lawn on pallets. It really is fun, but very time consuming. Now that we are getting the hang of it, we wish we had another six months to work on this project, but I guess all gardens and gardeners need to take a break some time.

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| The quarry is awesome and it's so nice to find fellow rockers here. I will show some of our rocks from the work garden we started in 2004. Our landscape project is an outdoor classroom featuring various gardening ways people can utilize wth fire safety in mind. I live and work in wildfire prone area so this garden is open to the public during summer months. Having piles of large rocks outside during the first part of the project just pulled people off the highway to look at them. I'm sure that if others had the equipment we have they would have been swipped during the nights. LOL
Going back to look at these pictures reminds me of the first summer working on this. The gardens have evolved so much but the rocks have stayed the same. |
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| I carried a 100+ lb rock home as a carry-on, on the flight home from my honeymoon years ago. I had it in the carryon bag, and tried my best to pretend it was not anything heavy or odd. |
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| Karen, I read the early stages of this thread last year, and really enjoyed it. It's so nice to go back and see the pictures of the progress you've made. You've created an amazing feature on your property, and I'm in awe of the amount of stone you and your family have moved! I spent last fall and this spring rebuilding a fallen stone retaining wall, and putting a new terrace and pair of patios (crushed rock, not flagstone) and a raised bed in the back yard, all made of stone. I'm very pleased with the result - it looks so NATURAL, pardon the cliche. My kids have gotten used to me stopping to pick up unusual stones (initially they grumped and rolled their eyes, but now they help me find "good" ones, and fossils are a bonus), and when our friends bought a house by a creek, we paid their sons to pick rocks for us too. It's good to know I'm not the only gardener who has a dirty car trunk with rock chips in the corners, and a pile of stones in the yard just waiting to find their proper placement. . . . Laurel |
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| Echoes, thank you for the pics, that is a gorgeous project, the stones just 'fit' the site, and the pond is lovely. extremegardening, carrying a 100 pound rock and making it look like nothing out of the ordinary had to be an amazing feat, lol. It must have been an extraordinary rock, do you have any pics? Laurel, good to meet a fellow rocker, wow, you've been busy this year already and have accomplished alot of projects! Speaking of car trunks and the state therein, when I went to the grocery store the other day and opened the trunk the carry-out person gave me the oddest look; we had another pile of rocks in there I'd forgotten about. (for better gas mileage, I have to remember to unload the car) It's really fun when the kids get involved and excited about collecting stones, too. Two weeks ago our youngest son was hired by the neighbor farmer to pick the stones off his farm fields (500+ acres) and he brought all of the stones home to our 'stash'. We have some really neat specimens again. Now we need another project, hmmmm... A quick update: we just finished remodelling the front yard with some bigger leftover quarry project stone because we lost some large trees and it needed a new look. It turned out fairly well. As soon as the gardens are weeded and planted, then we'll turn our attention back to the stone cottage construction. Thank you all for your kind comments! Karen |
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| I just discovered this this thread. WOW!!!!! is right. Karen, your quarry garden is absolutely outstanding. Amazing. You could charge admission. I've never seen anything like it. I am stunned. The pics of the forest river garden are outstanding too. Looks totally natural. I'm so glad to know that I'm not the only one who has been picking up and collecting rocks all her life. I have rocks all over the house and yard. I have carried rocks in my car, rocks in my suitcase (although never a 100lb one!) sent rocks UPS, had friends bring me rocks. I love rocks. My rock projects are very small by the standards of this thread. |
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I just read this whole sight and your adventure is amazing! I too have collected numerous rocks over the years, mostly for free out of farmers fields. Did you always envision it to turn out that way? Wow is all I can say, its awesome! I too live in WI and swam in a quarry by Red Granite as a teenager. It was great fun. I know its been blocked for years but it brought back memories for me of the fun of being a kid! Thanks for your story. Any new pictures of the shed? |
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| This is the coolest thread ever posted on GW. That quarry brought tears to my eyes. Your descriptions of your adventures are so well written. You should publish a book, complete with color illustrations. You write beautifully and you have such a story to tell. I will be awaiting updates, and I will often think of you and your family as I work on my (lame) brick and stone projects. Thanks to each of you for your rock stories. I enjoyed every one of them. p.s. Thanks for the reminder about the gas milage -- I have rocks in my trunk right now. |
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| its mid july 06. how about some photo updates. we're patiently waiting to live vicariously through you adventures? how is the round stone shed coming? I know that you already started. but have you ever read about the 'trulli' built by southern italians. they built round stone cottages, with conical roofs-- interlocking circles form the various rooms to mitigate damage from earthquakes. diggerb |
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| As a new member I'm glad this was one of my first few forums to read. This has been the best adventure I have read in a long time. I also have this addiction to rocks. Let's hope they don't start an "addiction to rock rehab centre", there would be lots of us. I laughed at so many stories because I can relate to them all and how innocent a little rock can be. I have a pile waiting in Collingwood to pick up to finish my "little" project. Thanks for writing and look forward to more. blacky1 |
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- Posted by von1 z4 NY (My Page) on
Fri, Jul 28, 06 at 7:38
You know its bad when you're out for a drive and you spy a good rock on the side of the road and try to make DH stop and get it for you. The thing is they look so small from the car!!! We were digging (with a backhoe) a place in the woods to bury our beloved golden retreiver. Made him set aside an interesting rock for the garden. She loved to help me garden so she would understand. Von |
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| I think for me the obcession for rocks began at an early age, i remember well, early in the spring when dad broke the ground for the crops, going with him and walking across the freshly plowed earth hoping to find that one special arrowhead for my collection, year-round i scourged the farmlands in my area looking for these precious stones. later in life i had the opportunity to help my Bro in law with his first home, as the giant redstone rocks rolled from under the dozers blade my mind was awhirl as to what i could use them for.( I built a raised rock bed around his mailbox and framed his driveway entrance for flower planting) then just this past spring as i marveled at the beauty of our central KY streams, i realized i wanted to build a dry stack wall/flower bed around around the giant pin oak in my yard, 6 weeks later and BAM! it was done, now im currently in my mind creating my next rock project. time will tell and my back will always remember what i plan to do next. I cant wait! woo HOO |
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Hi everyone. This is my first time visiting this forum. I like rocks too, but I must admit the ones I spent time scavenging for in my neighborhood don't compare to the pics here! I think I'll hang around. I may learn something. Thanks for sharing. -jasper |
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| Hey Litforever, how about posting a picture of that wall? I'd love to see it. |
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| jugglerguy, i couldnt get the pic posted inside this forum, so i posted it in the photo gallery forum. It is under "proud projects", the week of aug 13-19., the caption reads "limestone wall/container built from creek limestone". you can also go to Flickr and search for litforever,I would provide you with the link , but heck i lost it! lol |
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I'm in lower New York State. On my property, you can't turn around without bumping into stone. The ground is laden with it. To build my house, we had to excavate through pink granite. I placed a rather large one in my front yard. I put cracked corn and peanuts on it, and attract all manner of beasts. Every ledge and windowsill around my house have smaller rocks that I find interesting. I love the variety of stone I come across, especially the ones with the beautifull quartzite veins flowing through them. Mowing the lawn, just not seem right, without the occassional thunking of the stones, which grow from frosts, in the yard! I'm also an avid 'piler' of stones. Love it! I have fossils hot glued in patterns on the bathroom walls. Sheesh! Got rocks? 
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Well...I've been gone awhile and thought I'd update what's been going on with our rock obsession. The summer of 2006 was very busy, we had many garden tours and other visitors that kept us hopping. Since all of the summer work was so intense, by the time things slacked off a bit we were heading into fall. Unfortunately, cold weather and mortar work don't mix. So, the stone cottage was put to the side for the year, but is our priority for 2007. (A New Year's resolution) Our fall was quite warm, though, and we longed to do something, anything! with rocks. So, I got a notion to do a bit of remodelling to the quarry. We had four Scotch pines planted on the north wall of the quarry garden that we decided we could part with for expansion purposes. We yanked them out with our farm tractor and then set about bringing in the leftover stones we had and building another addition to the small hill. After we took the trees out, we all suffered a moment of panic; was that really a good idea? Oh, well, too late now. We hauled more dirt back from the pile one yard at a time and gradually built up the area. The pictures show our progress from September 06 to the first of December. Here is the way it looked before we removed the trees.  krensgarden Removing trees:
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| Karen! You're alive! I was starting to wonder if a big rock fell on you and squished you. I'm glad to see that you're alive and the quarry continues to grow and improve. I'm anxious to see that cottage when you get it finished next summer. I built a low but long retaining wall this summer that turned out nice. I also finished the path I started last summer. I tore out the lawn on the other side of the path and planted more shade plants. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Stone wall
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| Yes, we are alive and it's good to hear from you, too. The stone house is still standing, but with no additions to it since last fall. It will be our main focus in 2007. Your retaining walls are beautiful and your entire garden looks like a botanical paradise, so lush and cool. Are you still getting stone from the area around your home? You have some beauties there and an eye for rock placement; everything looks so natural. Thank you for sharing! |
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| I don't know about a botanical paradise, but I like it. I get my rocks from various farmers who are all about 15 minutes away. The two huge rocks in my front yard (including the one with my address on it) came from much closer, but just those two. I'm going to try to take a break from major additions to my yard next summer and try to just enjoy it. I'm pretty sure that won't happen, but that's the plan. |
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| I cannot thank you enough for the update to your backyard quarry. I think about you and your rock-hound family all the time, and I was hoping you'd come back with more pics. It is so inspiring. I have said it before, and I'll say it again: This is the best thread I have ever read on GardenWeb. Thank you for your generosity. And Jugglerguy -- Your stone wall is just like something I am going to be working on this Spring. I very much appreciate the pics. You did a very nice job, and I am only hoping for a similar result. |
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| Gardenscout, Thanks for the compliment. I should warn you that it was harder than I thought it would be to build that wall. However, I'm more proud of that wall than anything else in my yard. Here are a couple things I learned: I think the wall looks better with big rocks, but big rocks are heavy and much more difficult to work with. Get rocks with a flat side for the front. I tried to have fairly flat sides facing outward. The more rocks you can have around, the easier it will be. I gathered my rocks in a Jeep Wrangler, so I could only bring a few home at a time. You'll have an easier time building if you have 20 or more rocks to choose from. I built and rebuilt parts of the wall many times before I got the rocks to fit together just right. I also started in the middle and worked both ways to I'd have two places to try to fit rocks to. The more options the better. The first two rows of rocks are the easiest, because the bottom row can be lowered into the ground at any angle or depth. You might want to put your less than perfect rocks on the first layer for this reason. Bury the bumpy parts that wouldn't stack nicely. I didn't make a base of gravel, but I probably should have. The ground here is pure sand, so I didn't think I would have a drainage problem. I also didn't use any landscape fabric behind my wall, but that might be smart to do. I chinked the wall from behind with smaller rocks and the small holes are stuffed with cedar bark mulch from under my kids' swings. A neighbor kid worked for a landscaper last summer and told me that's what they did between rocks. Good idea? I'll let you know in a few years. So far it's working. I hope some of that advice helps. I'm just winging it here, so please realize that I'm not giving professional advice. Rob |
RE: Stone Collecting: Beware!
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| Rob, we know all about that plan for no more major additions, truly we do. But then a rock comes along, and then another one and before you know it, you're off and building. Your stone walls are fantastic. gardenscout, gosh, thank you for the compliments; I'm glad you're enjoying our ongoing antics. It's great to know other people share the same addiction; wouldn't it be fun to visit each other's yards and discuss rocks and projects? The stone house is something we're talking about a lot so far this winter. Once again, we have no blueprint really, it's just a picture drawn out on paper and we've yet to commit to the finished look which will also depend on the amount of rocks we have leftover. We'll probably end up hauling some more stone from the nearby quarry again, but the Mighty Buick ain't what she used to be and my contractor friend is always busy (gee I wonder why?) Carl saw a dumptruck for sale on the side of the road and I managed to talk him out of it...yes, it would be great... but it needed all new tires and neither of us has a license to drive one, lol. It is fun to dream, however! |
RE: Stone Collecting: Beware!
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so glad you took time to update us again. I just can not believe what you are doing-- just amazing like i said the ist time i logged in WOW!!! i really like the story diggerb PS we all look forward to hearing/seeing more this year. |
RE: Stone Collecting: Beware!
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| I just stumbled across this site. I think you are all wonderful. I have so enjoyed it! Thank you. Love the rock in the carry on bag story. Trying to look casual. Priceless. I too have taken beloved rocks with me when we moved. We now live in a Victorian and it sits partially upon a huge rock outcropping. When they built the house in 1902 they built the foundation from the rock they excavated. All hand carved. Years ago when we were in our last beloved home we had to put in new leaching fields and the excavator dig up an ENORMOUS rock which was right in the pathway. He had to dig a huge hole and rebury it. How I wish one of you could have had it or I had been smart enough to tell him to just leave it in the field and done something wonderful near it or just sit with my back to it in the sun. I know where it is though and that's a certain kind of joy. Thanks so much for all the pleasure I have gotten from your sharing. :) |
RE: Stone Collecting: Beware!
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- Posted by ilsa 6 KS (My Page) on
Wed, Apr 4, 07 at 11:59
Bump. Well, we *do* enjoy the ongoing story, and it *is* Spring, after all! Looking forward to hearing about/seeing pics of the stone house. Please keep us posted! |
health dangers from granite?
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| Anyone know where I find information re health dangers from granite; have heard of radon. Native Americans in South use granite for "sweats" (sauna for religious reasons) and after rocks are heated glowing red, are brought indoors and water poured over them. Am wondering about the radon and any lung damage? |
RE: Stone Collecting: Beware!
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| Oh noooooo! This story can not end here! Where is everyone??? I jumped into this thread with both feet and then found myself reading it more slowly because I did not want it to end. And then, zip, no more postings. Please everyone, come back and tell us all more! |
RE: Stone Collecting: Beware!
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| Hello nanner, I thought I'd post a bit about what's been going on around here the last few years. I wish I could say the stone house is done, but it isn't. (I feel very silly about the fact it's not done. We had every good intention of finishing it and we have laid more stonework every year, but other stuff keeps getting in the way, namely, life!) We got involved with finishing and remodeling the quarry garden and a whole bunch of other stuff, like moving the little 'barn' again (for the 4th and final time--at least, that's what we told our son, who wasn't amused!) Last fall, our furnace gave out, so we installed geothermal which meant we had to tear up the entire west side of our yard (about a half acre) and saw down trees, dig up hundreds of hostas and perennials and relocate as many as possible. The bright side of this was the opportunity to change the entire landscape of the front of the house, AND to get more rocks! Our 'digger guy' "C" is still around, too, and he was instrumental in the geothermal excavation and in loading another 130 tons from the local quarry for us. We had "C" make a berm close to the house and that's where we started the new rock garden. We're not sure if it fits in the landscaping or not, and we jokingly refer to it as 'the elephant burial mound' which is kind of self-explanatory. :-) The first pic shows one of the four trenches:
Below is a picture of Carl & I after two of the six loads of rocks were delivered.
By December 2009, this was as far as we got on the Elephant Burial Mound:
I have to take more updated pictures of this garden, especially after the dwarf conifers and flowers are planted. I started a blog about the garden with lots of pictures and all the other goofy stuff that goes on around here which goes into much more detail, if you're interested, the address is: http://krensgarden-karen.blogspot.com/ |
Here is a link that might be useful: Quarry Garden Stained Glass
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