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Fixing river slate retaining wall & raised bed

Posted by astilbe z5 MA (My Page) on
Sun, May 6, 07 at 12:37

My father died a few years back and there are a couple of yard projects that I'd like to do for my mother.
The retaining wall that Dad built 50 years ago around the front yard has heaved out some river slate (from the nearby river) after the warm/cold/warm weather we've been having.
There is also a slanted raised bed (lower in front, higher in back) for bulbs in the front yard made of the same slate that last year suddenly overgrew with grass. Some bulbs have pushed through the grass - a not so nice naturalized look - and are blooming now. I figured I'd dig out the soil, bulbs and all after the foliage has ripened and died away so that I can divide them and replant but I'm afraid that I'll make the slate tumble inward and I'm not sure how he built this walled bed anyway (before my time, not even a twinkle in his eye yet!)
Any ideas?

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RE: Fixing river slate retaining wall & raised bed

Retaining wall movement can be due to a variety of reasons. The most common is a failure to provide an escape route for ground water that may collect behind it. Here in the Northeast, with the normal freeze/thaw cycles of winter, knowing that water expands as it freezes, that can mean substantial movement as the years pass and water pressure behind the wall isn't taken care of. Usually that happens when the wall creates an impermeable concrete or mortared stone without free draining gravel backfill and weeps or drain pipe behind it. It can still happen with dry set stone, but that pretty much will only happen when the backfill is a loamy clayey soil through which water can't flow easily. Other reasons can be a change in the load above the wall, or just plain failure of the material with which the wall was constructed. Chances are that your wall moved because of the former...water not being able to drain though it...but that's only a guess, as internet diagnosises are subject to being.

In any case, it sounds like you're faced with dismantling the wall, removing any impermeable backfill within a foot of the back of the wall, and then reconstructing the wall with an appropriate batter (tilt towards the back - not a lot, only about a half to an inch of tilt per foot of wall height), and backfilling with clean gravel. If the stone is to be mortared in place, you'll need to install weeps about every 8 to 10 feet about 6 inches up from the bottom of the wall on the low side. Weeps are really just pieces of small diameter pipe (1-2 inches) with screening covering the buried end that project through the wall (front to back) allowing any groundwater that collects there to drain away. If the wall is to be dryset, some folks might still recommend the weeps, but the spaces between the stones should provide ample area through which the water can flow.

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