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Stepping stone size
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Posted by well_drained z6a MA (My Page) on Sun, Sep 12, 04 at 20:38
| How big should my stepping stones be?
I've done lots of research (including a search on this forum) but I can't seem to find much on this subject. I'm using flagstone to create a winding stepping stone path through my yard -- total length about 110 feet. I've dug out a trench 8 inches deep and 40 inches wide. I plan to add five inches of gravel, then place smaller round stones as edging, then add two inches of sand, then place the stepping stones and level them, then fill in with soil and start growing moss. The only reference that mentioned size said the stones should be at least 18 inches wide and 3-4 inches thick, and should be placed with the longest side across the path, not along it. (G. Hayward, Garden Paths.)
I thought you stone gardeners might have some thoughts on this issue. (I fear this may be another case of the dreaded 'it depends.')
Thanks in advance,
-- wd |
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RE: Stepping stone size
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Take this very post over to the Japanese garden forum. Not only has it been slow but paths (nobedan) are much discussed there and you might get a few ideas. |
RE: Stepping stone size
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| There are two issues here - one aesthetic and one practical. If you want to see what JG'ers use as background information, look at Saito's "Magic of Trees and Stones", available in many libraries. It is old (1964), but the best English language treatment. He generally says that 12" is the minimum, greatest dimension should go across the path, and the stones have to relate to each other (paralell irregular edges). It sounds like you have a plan for a standard width that has irregular stones inside the edging but not "paving" the full space. This is outside of typical JG designs, but you can find many books with ideas to build from. Practically, I find that when individual stepping stones are much less than 25 lbs, they are too easy to shift. Stones can be 4 or 6" thick if they are buried to leave only an inch or two above the ground. Stones that are 18" wide and a foot deep and 4" thick will weigh more than 50 lbs. The best are stones that weigh as much as the person walking on them - they rarely shift. Use a compacted base, pound in the sand around the stones, and use something other than sand to top it off if you want moss to grow. I use a clay subsoil that compacts well and holds the moisture for moss very well. Good Luck. |
RE: Stepping stone size
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| Thanks to the tip from Bambooo, I had a lot of interesting input from the Japanese gardening forum (even though I don't have or want a Japanese garden!). |
Here is a link that might be useful: Japanese garden forum responses
RE: Stepping stone size
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- Posted by BoTann z8 SEof Seattle (My Page) on
Wed, Sep 22, 04 at 13:18
I like them large, but smaller than a garbage can lid. If they are too small I feel like I need ballet lessons to traverse them. Too large and it interferes with a normal stride. To keep the stones from rocking, place them on a dishlike depression you have hollowed out for each one. They will rock if there is a high spot in the middle. |
RE: Stepping stone size
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| BoTann: Thanks for the tips. The problem I'm having is that I've dug out a trench 8 inches deep, 40 inches wide and 110 feet long for my winding path. I'm planning to fill the base with 5 inches of gravel, then 2 inches of sand, then lay the stepping stones into the sand, then cover the exposed sand with one inch of soil. Does your "hollowing out" tip work for this scenario? If not, how would you suggest I make sure the stones don't rock after laying them over the gravel/sand base? |
RE: Stepping stone size
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| As your original question was about the size of stepping stones and the distance between them was added somewhere along the line I have been looking for a formula. I thought the same formula as that for steps might work, that is twice the height of the riser plus the tread equals between 24 and 26 inches. So 18 inch stones (the tread) would require a gap (riser divided by 2) of 3 to 4 inches. Let me know if this works. |
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