Are they still saying backordered until mid-Feb?

Dave
Milwaukee

* Four vents ensure proper conditions for your plants
* UV coated polycarbonate panels are nearly indestructible
* Two sliding doors give easy access
* Durable extruded aluminum frame
* Metal foundation base for extra stability

Doorway dimensions: 4.87 ft. W x 7.70 ft. H, Overall dimensions: 12 ft. L x 10 ft. W x 10-7/8 H, Weight: 158.70 lbs.

Dave
Milwaukee

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=93358

And what a great price for a GH that big!

Still a nice size for a hobbyist greenhouse. It's really tempting, but warrants a check of municipal building codes - something this size may require a building permit, which means fees, permits, set-backs, inspections and ... taxes.

Diane

Cindy

Cindy? You get your's yet?...LOL

Dave
Milwaukee

The DH came home last night with a surprise bonus check from work and said here's half your new greenhouse. I think the other half will be a Valentines present. I'm also going to wait for the next 20% off coupon I get from them. I usually get one about once a month.

So have you got your's yet????? How are you going to arrange it? What are you going to put in it???

Cindy

I have been buying stuff from them (tools mostly) for 2 years and am signed up for the email thing and I have yet to receive a single coupon from them.

Does anyone know of any online purchase discounts they are offering or are they all for the store only?

Dave
Milwaukee

My DH thinks one will fit right where I'm wanting it. Becasue of a very large tree (which is my shade cloth in the summer. LOL) it might have to be forward of the little ones a couple of feet but if I arrange some plantings and such nicely it won't look bad.

What do you want to grow in it?

Cindy

My order was placed after Jan 24th, so I dont know about the supposed backorder.

You lucky dog I ordered mine on the 23th and have not heard from the trucking company yet.
They said they would call 48 hours before delivery so don't look like I'm going to get it this week unless they call tomorrow.

Harbor Freight Tools!!

Farmtek is another example of a company doing the same. I don't really care as long as what I buy is what I thought I bought.

Farmtek is Clearspan.

The problem is when these companies start using different names to sell products to targeted buyers (us) then they all have seperate paper mailing lists.

I can't keep up with cancelling mail paper catalog deliveries from these companies because once you order somthing or ask for a data sheet then you get a renewed flood of paper from all the "other" (same) company.

Computers, electronic data exchange and the "paperless office" were supposed to conserve resources.

I am having a rant because I got a foot high stack of paper just this week from equipment and seed companies, and all I ever ordered was ONLINE from their non-tree killing WEBSITES!!!!

I feel better now.

Any chance you could take a picture of the box and post it?

I am a little concerned at the difference in dimensions from what I was told by HF. Granted, a half foot in length and 3 or 4 inches in width and height is not a big deal, but 11'6" x 9'9" x 9'9" is not the same as 12 ft. L x 10 ft. W x 10-7/8 H, which is on the website. And they clearly say "two sliding doors."

Cindy?...I'm using it for orchids, of course. they're VERY addictive...LOL I did post some new pics on Flickr of the greenhouse in use. Let's see if I can use this URL.

Is the Harbour Freight site outside dimensions and yours inside ? IE They are counting wall/stud/frame thickness and the other dimensions are inside?

Two sliding doors. One door way one door slides right the other slides left?

thanks so much for posting this. i ordered mine today. was told by the saleswoman that their shipment is due in tomorrow and in my area, i can expect it in 12 to 18 days. not bad, i can take that time, since our weather is so gorgeous of late, and prepare the site.

she did in fact tell me that it is definitely 2 doors (sliding) and that the measurements are in fact as listed. i did question internal vs. external measurements and that stumped her. but it's an excellent price. plus they threw in three one year magazine subscriptions for free.

i had put away $2500.00 for a greenhouse. i spent under $800.00 - that's a great savings in my mind. i already have the internal things for it. i figure i'll spend just about 1000.00 all toll for this, so i have $1500.00 to play with - which is soooooooo exciting.

i have two massive trees on either end of my property. it's my intention to put this in the middle and pray nature creates the shade i will need. my son is running the water lines so everything is good.

now dave, if you don't mind me picking your brain a tad, i saw your pics (thanks) and note the wood base. how did you anchor that to the ground? maybe i'm just not picking things up from the pics posted, but if you could spare a suggestion, i'd be delighted.

happy a great day everyone!
earthly/maryanne

Those are 2x12 pressure treated timbers. I used them to give my greenhouse more height and also to give the structure more weight. The base weighs about 250 lbs. I didn't anchor it. This greenhouse frame is very lightweight and it hasn't budged in our high winds. Any other questions?...just ask away.

Dave
Milwaukee

The greenhouse pics were great. The orchids were quite beautiful.

So have you made the decision yet???

Cindy

Dave
Milwaukee

I showed my boss the Harbor Freight pic of it and even he said I should buy it and then sell plants to his wife. LOL

Cindy

sure hoping our weather holds out so i can get this thing up, now though i'm anxiously awaiting delivery :)

maryanne/earthly

Charlz

That may be true where you live but here in gods country it will do just fine.
As to the flat roof comment that's BS

I don't get why there's such an anti HFGH attitude among some people. When I got my small one and mentioned that I planned to heat it in the winter, I got all sorts of negative responses. I heard that it would cost so much to heat that it wouldn't be worth it, that it would blow apart, etc.

Well, we've had a lot high winds since I put it up. There are shingles that have blown off houses by it, but my HFGH is still fine. Granted, it has been a mild winter (yet cold fall), but it appears to be costing only about $25 or maybe $30 a month to heat it.

I have eaten fresh tomatoes, cucumbers, radishes, tangerines and even pomegranates from plants growing in it. I have a lemon tree filled with blooms. I love the my little HFGH and have no doubt that those of you that are getting the large one will love it too.

Stuart

size.....I've found even using 2 that it's too small. But I'm growing in it year round and so it's packed with plants, mostly orchids.

Panels....double wall polycarb. They're only 4 mil panels but they seem to do the job. I've only insulated the roof of my house with bubble wrap and the northwall with Refletex . But the uninsulated panels are warm on the interior and cold on the exterior.

Structure.....aluminum framework. At first, as I was building the frame it seemed kind of rickety. But after attaching it to the foundation and adding the panels it's solid as a rock. I used extra clips and also 1 self tapping screw at the top and bottom of each panel that wouldn't be removed regularly, which I would reccommend to anyone. It's survived a VERY strong windstorm here this fall with no problems.

Foundation....2x12 pressure treated lumber. Expensive, but it added needed headroom and weight to the structure. I filled the floor with pea gravel which was a pain to move but has been good...no drainage problems here.

In a nutshell...if the new 10x12 is as nice as the smaller ones it'll be a great value.

Dave
Milwaukee

Like Dave, I'm busting at the seams of my 2 small ones but I love every inch of it. When I get the bigger one I'm sure it won't take long before I have it gloriously full to the brim too. If it turns out half as wonderful as my fantasy's then it will be heaven to me.

Cindy

Tom

anyone else?

Dave
Milwaukee

I am only 5'2" so height was not an issue with me and we put a fence panel down in each of them as the floor. Much cheaper and the perfect size than buying decking and such. In the bigger one I will put raised beds with heat coils in them on the sides and back wall and then pavers and pea gravel in the center.

Cindy

I have a question for you Cindy, since you have one.

The polycarbonate sheeting that it has:

- are they single pane (just 1 thin panel each)

- if single, is the unit designed in a way that another panel can be added to provide a double-panel effect for better winter insulation?

- is the frame on the inside easy to put screws into to put things on the wall, i.e. hangers, benches, shelves, bubblewrap, etc?

Thanks in advance for any info.

The panels are twinwall 2 skins with spacers in between...4 mil total thickness, and rigid.

There are two ways to add bolts to the frame for adding/hanging things. You can either get hex head bolts of the proper size and add them as you're building, or, as I did, buy some t-bolts for the Julianna line of greenhouses and those can be added after construction. They also have a line of pot hangers that work on the same principle as well as clips to add interior insulation.

Dave
Milwaukee

As to the dimensions, it fits on a 10x12 4x4 base (10x12 outer dimensions), with an inch or so gap around the edges. So it is somehwat less than 10x12, but not so much that it matters.

That amazes me! The smaller houses went up like nothin' to it. Other than the modifications I made myself everything lined up perfectly. I hope this isn't a permanent production problem.

Dave
Milwaukee

A lack of an instruction sheet is a HUGE DEAL! HFGH obviously knows that they product they are selling doesn't have the instructions. Therefore, they should just prepare an envelope and using packing tape, just tape them to the boxes before shipping.

Ya must make the customer happy as WORD OF MOUTH makes a very big difference to business.

Made in China? I didn't know that this was. I guess I just assumed that it was made in the good 'ole US of A!

But, I guess that explains the price being so low.

gardenrwantable, garbonzo (and other with this unit)

Would you say that even with the problems, that it's worth it due to the price? Or do the problems out-weigh the good price?

How high is it at the side wall?

SH

I notice a definate change in tone between your 13Feb posting and your 15Feb posting.

Can I extrapolate from this change that on the 13th, you still felt the GH was worth it, but then, once you really got down to assembling it, dealing with poor support, poor documentation, sub-standard materials that you've changed your mind?

In other words, on the 13th you said that you'd still buy another one as it's $1,000 less expensive and therefore worth the stress?

Or, after the 15th, are you now saying that it's not worth the cash savings?

Either way, I won't be considering this. "IF" we decide to make a change, I'd prefer our idea of demolishing the extention to the garage and building a greenhouse in that location as a permanent structure.

So, after all is said and done, it turns out to be exactly what I suspected. I mean, that size of GH for that price? It had to be either hot merchandise or just sub-standard materials.

That's what we get for buying crap from China. OH don't get me wrong, some stuff from China can be not bad at all, but I'm finding more and more that they are making junk and laughingly selling it throughout the world.

At this point, I'm pretty much going to stay away from stuff from China. I'd rather pay more and get something built to quality standards.

Mine came with instructions, by the way. They were in a red plastic bag taped to the outside of the box.

It's an incredible bargain. With patience, a little know-how and some extra parts, you'll have a heckuva greenhouse for the price.

You'd pay $3000 for something similar somewhere else. Look at it this way--$2400 will go a long way for plants to fill up your $599 greenhouse, don't you think?

Leigh

Leigh

My recollection is that several people have reported that with the modifications their 10x12 HFGH's have stood up well to wind, snow and ice and they are very happy with their greenhouses.

Best of luck to you!

So here it goes again.

Well I did it. Bought the HF 10 x 12 last weekend and and today with the help of my wife and two of cancer survivor friends, put everything together but the roof. What a project. With all four os working on it, it still took most of the day. Trying to figure out the instructions with all of us reading them took most of the time. It's pretty much erected, but I think that there are some things that are not right.
We read and re-read where it said that the four corner studs (7) are attached to the floor plates (1-6) with the end with the two holes at the bottom. Did that, though it did not make sense.

Now comes the time to put the corner bracket (49) to the top of the corner studs. It says to attach it through the top hole. Why are there two holes on each side of the bracket and only one(because they said to to the the end of the corner post with two holes on the bottom?

I'm lucky that I found this forum and saw a photo with what looks like the corner bracket is indeed mounted using two screws through the the bracket into two holes in the top of the corner stud.

I tryed to figure what the reason it for two holes on the bottom and can't find any. Looks like I have to tear out the corners and flip them.

Is this an error? Help. My wife and here friends want to get some plants in the greenhouse by next weekend. To top it off, snow is predicted for this week.

I would appreciate any advice.

Thanks,

Joe Urda
In the Finger Lakes Region of NY

For contruction updates go to the link below. Enjoy.

Good luck

Troy

And in case you haven't found these, here is a list of more really helpful info:

Gardenerwantabe's thread on HFGH modifications:
A Guide to the Modifications of 10x12 HFGH
...and a link to his photos:
Gardenerwantabe's HFGH photos

Laserfan's thread, with links to his photos:
HFGH 10x12 Lessons Learned

Oraylawson's thread, with links to his photos:
10x12 HFGH

Troykd's site:
Building our Greenhouse, an Adventure in Pain

Amigatec's site:
How I Built My 10x12 Harbor Freight Greenhouse

Joe Urda's site:
Harbor Freight Greenhouse

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=93358

I tried to put a lot of their good solutions in one place, along with photos we took as we worked. There are quite a few places where the manual is terribly unclear (or wrong) and hopefully the info in this forum and my blog will help you get over the rough spots.

Keep us posted on your progress! :-)
Sheri

Thanks so much.
masscactus - ready to build

To start a fresh thread with your question, go back to the main page of the Greenhouse forum, and scroll down to the bottom of the page, to the box saying "Post a Message to the Forum." You can retype your message there, using the title you used to title your post above.

That way, your new thread and title will show up at the top of the list of threads, and will remain "stuck" there until someone posts a reply to you. This might bring some fresh eyes to your question. I hope so anyway! :-)
Sheri