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Walipini

Posted by jj001 Nevada (My Page) on
Thu, Oct 23, 08 at 0:40

I live in Reno, NV and live on a hill with great southern exposure. I want to dig a hole 8' feet deep 16' wide and 50' long. My question is : does anyone have experience with this type of greenhouse? Looking for advice. One question is what the angle of the roof should be? Any and all thoughts are appreciated.


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RE: Walipini

  • Posted by bev_w 6a Vienna ON (My Page) on
    Thu, Oct 23, 08 at 15:39

Have you read "Earth Sheltered Solar Greenhouse" by Mike Oehler? His book is self-published and he's not a great writer, but he includes the angles you need for the degree of latitude you're at, based on how deep and wide your structure is.

There are solar azimuth calculators available, some online. Google search terms "sun path" or "solar azimuth diagram"

- Bev


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RE: Walipini

  • Posted by jj001 Reno, NV (My Page) on
    Mon, Oct 27, 08 at 13:45

I have not read the book. I will though. The search for the sun path is extremely helpful. Thanks.
JJ


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RE: Walipini

  • Posted by jj001 Reno, NV (My Page) on
    Mon, Oct 27, 08 at 15:51

I have not read the book. I will though. The search for the sun path is extremely helpful. Thanks.
JJ


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RE: Walipini

I live in southeastern Oklahoma...and as you know we are always challenged when it comes to gardening and this year the heat was the major issue!..LOL Ive been exhaustively researching these ideas about 365 gardening and preserving while living off of the grid, so before I call out the earth movers I want to make sure i have all of my ducks in a row!.....I was very interested in this site... http://greenhouse.taroandti.com/2008/02/28/earth-sheltered-pit-greenho use/ It seems they are doing a hybrid type at a low cost.
I would love to find others in my area that might have some experience with this and i also have a few questions for the forum?.....

1. I notice everyone is planting on the floor. Wouldn't it be better use of the space to do a terraced planting along the walls and this would act as a berm as well?

2. Although i am knee deep into self efficiency My moto is( purposeful can be pretty at the same time)... So has anyone added some of the more aesthetic details to their plans... ponds, decorative elements ect?

3. could i figure out a way to incorporate a tropical zone for figs and citrus .. a zone where i could let plants go dormant if need be... a cactus area... a fish pond/aquaponic area and a little mushroom area? or am i looking at digging several different houses?


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RE: Walipini

It sounds like he got lucky regarding the drainage. If I dug that pit, it would fill up with water as soon as it rained. I have a clay soil that holds back water. So then I'd have to install a drain and trench that out, too.

I don't like the cattle panels idea. They would wear out the poly quickly. It didn't help that he used the wrong poly, either.

The earth berm idea is not bad. I just wouldn't throw out all greenhouse construction standards at the same time. It would make more sense to use standard materials like galvanized metal pipe. You could look at "insulated north wall" greenhouse ideas, and then just use a mound of dirt as your north wall. You could also dig a pit and build a normal quonset hoophouse over that. I think both ideas are promising, but you still have to use the right materials.


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