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Will Beetles/Boers/Etc Attack fresh cut Pecan wood

Posted by loger (My Page) on
Tue, Dec 24, 13 at 21:51

Will Beetles/Borers/Etc Attack fresh cut Pecan wood as I know they will Mesquite wood? In the past I have noticed fresh cut Mesquite would end up with Grub Looking Borers after it is cut (vs before and leaving mounds of dust). My past Pecan held 2-3 seasons with good weight and no sign of borers.

As I’m rotating to older wood to burn and noticing same Pecan is being attacked and seasoning/aging faster. It appears as all round wood vs split blocks. Could breathing from stacking too tight contribute due to the moisture/mildew appearance (plus bore appearances in attachments)?

I am on my predicted two cords pace or over due to burning older than seasoned wood. Loosing more value in the two cords I planed to save will cause this to continue. My body is not too happy with this loss. A new goal will be to split all wood smaller. Such as: quarter 12” dia wood and no round wood over approx 6” in dia. My Body Is Talking/Rehabbing from too much overhead lifting of wood too large. Pics at the links below if they do not open but I’ll attach one as a summary.

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This post was edited by loger on Wed, Dec 25, 13 at 11:26


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RE: Will Beetles/Boers/Etc Attack fresh cut Pecan wood

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Will Beetles/Borers/Etc Attack fresh cut Pecan wood as I know they will Mesquite wood? In the past I have noticed fresh cut Mesquite would end up with Grub Looking Borers after it is cut (vs before and leaving mounds of dust). My past Pecan held 2-3 seasons with good weight and no sign of borers.

As I’m rotating to older wood to burn and noticing same Pecan is being attacked and seasoning/aging faster. It appears as all round wood vs split blocks. Could breathing from stacking too tight contribute due to the moisture/mildew appearance (plus borer appearances in attachments)?

I am on my predicted two cords pace or over due to burning older than seasoned wood. Loosing more value in the two cords I planed to save will cause this to continue. My body is not too happy with this loss. A new goal will be to split all wood smaller. Such as: quarter 12” dia wood and no round wood over approx 6” in dia. My Body Is Talking/Rehabbing from too much overhead lifting of wood too large.


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RE: Will Beetles/Boers/Etc Attack fresh cut Pecan wood

All cut wood will eventually be attacked by borers and small buggy critters if left long enough although my personal opinion is that mesquite will hold out longer than most due to the high natural volatiles contained in the species.
From the wording in your post and the attached image, I get the feeling that you tend to stack wood as you obtain and cut it, putting all on the same stack regardless of age. The best way I've found is to start a separate stack for "new" (this year's cutting) wood, leaving the old or last year's wood stack to burn first. That older wood is burned first regardless of appearance or condition which will remediate some of the borer issues you're having.
As to stacking loose or tight, regardless of how you stack it, there will nearly always be enough airflow to allow the wood to season properly although possibly not enough airflow for the wood surfaces to dry out quickly after a rain, snow event, etc. Unless you keep your wood piles covered, this is a natural occurrence and doesn't actually mean much other than visual appearance.
I think at some point, all of us who cut or have cut our own firewood have actually cut far more than we can use within a reasonable time. While "too much wood" may seem contrary to the idea of having plenty of wood on hand for winter burning or perhaps even just bar-b-queuing, accumulating more than you can use in perhaps one and a half seasons is a waste of effort since once dried, you're just providing a home for borers, termites, and other small nasties who take advantage of the wood buffet you've set up for them.
My recommendation to you would be to burn up all the older wood you already have before you start on the fresher stock you've accumulated. Secondly, try to estimate how much wood you burn a season and then accumulate only as much as you can get rid of easily.
Steve


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Thanks Steve! I understand and agree with all you are suggesting or saying. My source of wood is my problem since I depend on what I can find free for the removal vs having a source. Before the recent old neighborhood tree removal trend and 2010 ice storm (since 1983’s storm surplus) I was almost bare and started donating some racks vs purchasing wood when we have gas.

Then come age's challenging splitting/working until I was given a splitter. My confining, 120’ X 70’ lot + home challenge separating loads of wood but I know the need. My challenges were good source of exercise that I’ll have to evaluate and reduce.


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Loger , Happy New year Bro ! I agree 100% with Steves advice. As for your Moisture and moss or fungus issues I have a suggestion. I have found over 40 yrs of fire would cutting / splitting and storing that the 12 inch thru 16 inch logs are the best in the long haul . As you I quarter my 16 to 18 inch long butts , but suggest you stagger the stacking face to face and bark to face and bark to bark to ensure better air circulation . I also place the last top row with bark up for water and snow protection . Usually stack my face cords double row . I like to separately stack dirty old knotty 20 inch or larger unsplit butt ends for the garage and utility shed and smaller knotty 16 to 18 inch for the house use. As for selection of mesquite wood you have the best overall wood available in the world other than perhaps Iron Wood for efficient burning. I have Maple and Oak and on occasion , when I travel deep into my back acreage by the Red Ceder Swamps I will fell a few Ironwood with 12 to 14 inch sizing . These species due not grow to the 20 inch range as they mature very slowly , but what a dense &hot burning tree. I wish they grew in more abundance however the ceder seem to rule more abundant within this area lol. I have finished my annually cutting with my New Dolmar and Echo saws and split the remanents of the ironwood just prior to Xmas. So I will have plenty of wood for the next 2 yrs . I season for 2 yrs and normally ensure that I begin early in the fall each yr prior to Bow Deer Season . The Cedar I do last for kindling usage in the late fall early winter since the swamps have firmed up by then. I agree as we get older the 8=10 cord wood processing get a little more challenging , but with the price of Heating Oil I have an incentive , since I have plenty of wood resources on my property and selective harvest passionately. All the Best to You and yours during this festive season !


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Hello, Ewalk, Happy New Year!
I have noticed since my mid- late 70s of working and burning wood some of the suggestions mentioned. Most noticeable has been the larger/wood has basically no insect issues and hold a few seasons while round or split. Basically I season 1 yr in this North TX Heat.

I will avoid any dead trees with any signs of insect’s damage or period when healthy green wood is plentiful. I’ll start splitting my wood smaller Per My Body’s Request (LOL). Due to the extra handling I plan to stay with 12” dia or 16-18” with help (splitting 4-6 times and 16” long.

Due to not knowing when I will see a load of wood, I will make most small loads or some close loads in my SUV in a truck’s bed shell. Next, I use my utility trailer with truck quality axle and springs. Attached is a load of Red Oak that a tree trimmer loaded that was more than I w/h loaded. I feel that was possible too heavy for 2 slow miles home. What is your opinion? I have not loaded that heavy since vs ¾ full about 400 yards from my yard. My usual load is below the rear window’s tops (for traction and seeing back left/right) in the 07 v6 2WD SR5 4Runner and 2-3’ high in my 4’X7’ utility trailer (calling it 1/2-3/4 face cord, staying off the Fwy to drive slow).

Red Oak =

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Pecan =

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Hello, Ewalk, Happy New Year!
I have noticed since my mid- late 70s of working and burning wood some of the suggestions mentioned. Most noticeable has been the larger/wood has basically no insect issues and hold a few seasons while round or split. Basically I season 1 yr in this North TX Heat.

I will avoid any dead trees with any signs of insect’s damage or period when healthy green wood is plentiful. I’ll start splitting my wood smaller Per My Body’s Request (LOL). Due to the extra handling I plan to stay with 12” dia or 16-18” with help (splitting 4-6 times and 16” long.

Due to not knowing when I will see a load of wood, I will make most small loads or some close loads in my SUV in a truck’s bed shell. Next, I use my utility trailer with truck quality axle and springs. Attached is a load of Red Oak that a tree trimmer loaded that was more than I w/h loaded. I feel that was possible too heavy for 2 slow miles home. What is your opinion? I have not loaded that heavy since vs ¾ full about 400 yards from my yard. My usual load is below the rear window’s tops (for traction and seeing back left/right) in the 07 v6 2WD SR5 4Runner and 2-3’ high in my 4’X7’ utility trailer (calling it 1/2-3/4 face cord, staying off the Fwy to drive slow).


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Loger can't help you with the graphics issues lol . As for the 4-Runner owned a 1991 , the most weight I ever put in it was 16 4x8 dry wall sheets and the front end was floating lol. Great vehicle had the V-6 had it for 5 yrs , great fuel economy. Your probably right with your heat and the insect issues. The Extreme cold up North here reduces this infestation issue , since they are killed off or at least reduced. Air circulation is the big help in reducing the fugus and mould etc. I wish we had Mesquite firewood available up North , anyhow you take care Bro All the Best !


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