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New guy needs some help. Deere VS Husky

Posted by peaksjam Virginia (My Page) on
Fri, Apr 29, 11 at 8:36

Hey folks,

I've researched my self into a frenzy here and am just looking for some help here from someone that knows more about this than me. I'm looking for a machine to manage my property which is about an acre of grass on a sort of level surface, a large winding hill of a driveway that will have to be traveled to get to the lower grass area, and the rest woods.

I looked at Husqvarna's top end Garden Tractor but have kind of ruled it out because I"m concerned about the 52 inch deck being too big to leave a really smooth cut on my uneven surfaces. Above everything else, the cut is the most important. I'm also unsure of Husky's longetivity which I'll go into more later.

I've narrowed down my search to the John Deere X300 and the Husqvarna YTH24V48LS. Like I said, I've got about an acre of sort of level yard with a few bumps and small rises. I want something that will leave a really nice cut and also allow me to pull a wagon loaded with mulch, firewood, rocks, whatever needs moving that day. Also, I want to aerate my yard and have the ability to do some other stuff should the need arise. It may never arise, but that's beside the point.

So, I thought that the X300 was going to be the deal. Really nice machine. Well built, good name, Kawasaki engine at 18 hp, good warranty, super color scheme. Sitting right at 3k.

But then I came across the Husky. 24 hp Kawasaki, locking differential, bigger deck, three bills cheaper.

My initial response was to go with the Husky because I hate the idea of spending more on less, but I couldn't find a single customer review of this specific machine while the x300 had page after page of positive reviews. I made up my mind to go buy the X300 today and chickened out when I got to the store.

I guess what I'm looking for is someone with some personal experience with the Husky to ease my mind that it's going to be a good machine for the long term. My needs aren't huge, but I do have to run up and down a pretty good grade to access the grass at the bottom of my driveway and I don't want to be spinning halfway up. Especially if I'm trying to carry a cart of sticks.

It comes down to this, for me. Is 18 hp enough to do everything that I want and is the John Deere name worth the extra? Or should I trust in the husky that offers more machine for a lot less? The equivalent machines at JD were in the 5k range.

Super long post for the new guy, I know... I'm very appreciative of any advice you guys might have!

Thanks,
Jason


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RE: New guy needs some help. Deere VS Husky

the x300 is really an embellished ($$$) lawn tractor and does not have a heavy-duty hydro tranny for pulling hills and pulling signjficant loads.
You might do better with a late model used garden tractor. For uneven ground, invest in landscaping to level it out ..


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RE: New guy needs some help. Deere VS Husky

If you intend to use the tractor for hauling rocks, and other heavy uses, i'd suggest getting a geared trans-axle, instead of the hydro. That fancy stuff is for the hi-class home-owner who only mows his lawn a couple times a week, and might haul the leaves and mowing refuse to the back part of his property once a month!
The only thing the hydro does for ya, is save a bit of shifting. Those hydros are not intended to be used for heavy work, although a few extremely lucky folks have managed to not pull the guts out of one, with that type of usage!
I guess i have been lucky, because i haven't managed to ruin any used lawn tractor i have acquired. The only hydro tranny i have here is junk, gotten from a dis appointed owner, who bought a geared tractor the next time.
Although, i did buy a really nice late model Craftsman lawn tractor, red in color, from a man who thought he didn't have to use the clutch to shift gears! Fool that he was-just went merrily on his rounds, shifting willy-nilly, and dissing the brand, because the tranny failed on him! It was a six speed, with a clutch!


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RE: New guy needs some help. Deere VS Husky

  • Posted by exmar 6 SE Ohio (My Page) on
    Fri, Apr 29, 11 at 10:21

If I read your needs correctly, you essentially want a lawn tractor which will occasionally haul a load of firewood? I didn't see anything about "ground engaging" implememnts or anything else which would require a Garden Tractor rear end and tranny. Also "occasionally" haul a load of rocks, mulch. That shuld be within the realm of a LT. What size cart do you have, one of the small ones or something like the 18 cuft AgriFab which is rated for 1500lbs? If you're worrying about hauling heavy loads and your cart will only hold 500...

You mention "spinning halfway up." Traction is a function of the tire tread, not the LT/GT label and if that's a concern, you'll have to spend extra $$ for AG or the ATV tires that have become popular on small tractors. Also, depending on the severity of the grade, wheel weights may be needed, though with a load on a cart, the weight is transferred to the rear end of the tractor (if loaded right) so that shouldn't be needed.

Sure, a GT would do everything you want and lots more, also "buy more than you need" is a very useful adage to keep in mind. However it's your $$ and you might want to do a realistic evaluation of the tasks you'll do. Didn't see anything about snow removal, pushing a blade or running a snow thrower that would be out of the realm (IMHO) of an LT.

If you have "bumps and contusions" in your lawn, remember that the deck hangs off the tractor and if one of the tires is riding up a bump, cut will be affected.

Another consideration is availability of parts and dealer service if needed. Where do you order parts for a TSC unit? Is the JD supported by a local dealer or sold at a "big box" store-all GREEN is not equal. You might look at Sears, they have good sales, parts and service are available, and their website is full of reviews for everythig they sell.

Good Luck,

Ev


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RE: New guy needs some help. Deere VS Husky

Thank you all for the advice. I think I may have worried myself about uses I'll never need.

The firewood is simply moved from the woodpile to my porch about 35 yards away. The most common pulling would probably be loads f mulch from the back of my industrial dump trailer to the back yard. All what I would guess should fit into the lt category.

I've also found out that the husky runs the same tranny as the x300 which, to me, says that they're actually putting more stress on a lightweight tranny with the higher horsepower and heaviest frame. I don't suspect that I could expect much more in the way of performance from the extra 8 hp that the husky provides when it uses the sametranny as the 18 hp John Deere.

Still a lot of thinking to do. This all started because I didn't want to walk my mower or my wheel barrel around anymore. Then I got sucked into the big bad machine thought pattern. Pretty sure stepping outside of the box store and into a tractor store will give me all that I need no matter what name ends up on the hood.

Thanks again for the advice.

Jason


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Is 18 hp enough... well, if you read around the forums you'll find post after post proclaiming that 8 hp is enough and has been for 40 years so I feel that question can be put to bed.

A JD X300 is not an entry level lawn tractor you buy at the box store. An X300 is a Select Series only sold by authorized John Deere dealers who stock parts and honor a 4 year or 300 hour warranty. You can get an X300 with up to a 48" deck. An X300 had EXACTLY the same frame as the X500 Garden Tractor... not a similar frame, the SAME frame.

The X300 has resale value that no Husqvarna ever dreamed of

The reason you see multitudes of owner reviews of the X300 may be that JD sells a lot of them and the owners are satisfied... that can't be a negative.

John Deere offers the 30 day promise... if you're not satisfied bring it back for a full refund within 30 days. What have you got to lose?


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RE: New guy needs some help. Deere VS Husky

I would at least get X304 or even the X320. I don't see any attachments offered for the X300. At least if you want to down the road you will have some options with the X304 or higher models. I know I got snow blade for my LX266 and it sure comes in handy when it snows. It pushed 13" no problems with just chains. But you may not need attachments then the extra 500 bucks may not be worth it. I tend to get more than I need when making big investment, that way I other options available if needed.


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Pretty much the same attachments offered for the X300 as the X304 and X320 and all the X3xx Select Series including tractor shovel and front blade...

click here for X300 attachments


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RE: New guy needs some help. Deere VS Husky

Jason,
Looks like you are interested in purchasing more so of quality machine vs. big box low-end. If so, you might want to think about using that $3K or so to get yourself a used Deere X500 with a true GT tranny.

Here's one in VA I found on CL. After tax on the X300 and with a little bargaining, this used X500 would cost you the same as a new X300. 241 hours isn't much on these units.
http://blacksburg.craigslist.org/grd/2355111013.html

I purchased a used Deere GT225 two years ago for $1700. No hour meter, but probably was no more than 200. Also, my GT225 proves HP isn't everything. It's a 15HP single cylinder. In the fall I use a 48" deck and pull a Cyclone Rake. Fully loaded, you wouldn't know you were pulling a grade in my backyard. I can actually accelerate up those hills and most of the time I'm at "1/2 throttle" on the hydro.
I did a lot of research in the spring of 2009 and decided it was "all about the hydro" and I didn't have $5K for a new X500. Besides the X500, there are also the older series GTs and GXs. GT235 with a twin Kawa is a very nice unit and I also bought one myself for about $2600 with 200+ hours. You'll need a GX though if you want a diff lock. I don't have one and I can't say I needed one after two seasons and I'm running turfs. HDAPs might help a bit by themselves.
Good luck.


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