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If you had to pick one......small lawn tractors

andrelaplume2
12 years ago

Though I said this last year, I fear my old Toro 32XL lawn tractor may be entering its last season and I want to start to think about a replacement. I will be spending $1500 or less?I know, I know, for real quality I need to spend more. I also do not want used?who knows what problems I?d be inheriting. No, $1000 - $1500 will be my budget.

I have about .4 acres (yes less than half an acre) of grass that I mulch. I could use a walk mower but my kids are at an age where the speed of the tractor comes in handy.

The yard is flat and open, not many obstacles and mostly much grass?some leaves and pine needles in the fall. There is a small hill at on end of the yard?I can navigate the hill in either direction without fear on my current toro tipping. Sometimes when the grass is wet the tires spin going up it?I think after 12 or so years I likely need tires with some more tread. The hill is not too steep though.

I do pull a plug aerator each season but thats all.

I am very good about basic maintenance each year so the replacement unit should allow the owner to be able to change the oil, filters, sharpen the blade, clean the deck etc in a simple fashion. In fact I pull the toro up on ramps and reach under to get the blade off?.something where the deck easily came off for blade changes and cleaning would be great. Hydro tranny might be nice but is not essential, especially if they are more trouble prone. A cup holder might be nice. I like my headlight..I do use it. Other than that I am not too picky so long as it fits thru my shed door?I?ll have to measure them.

I have eliminated toro from my search since my local toro guy (where I have bought all my equipment) actually told me I?d be better off getting a Craftsman and saving $500 - $900 over the toro they sell?they are not to happy with toro having ?sold out? to MTD I guess??I think I can count on them to service whatever I end up with though.

Please rate one from each group or feel free to recommend something else.

GROUP 1 ? HOME DEPOT

42" Ariens 17.5HP ($1299) or 42: Poulan XT 17.5 HP ($999)

To me these two guys look to be made exactly the same. I can see no deck or engine difference. The must be made by the same company?no? The Ariens has a headlight but if everything else is the same I doubt its worth the extra $300?maybe it has a better warranty. I could probably rig a light up for $25. I like the fact that its 42". I have no idea what makes these models decent or junk relative to each other or the Group 2 models.

GROUP 2 ? HOME DEPOT

46" Ariens Hydro ($1299) or 46"John Deere Gear - $1499

These look like a step up from the Group 1 stuff?but maybe not. The Ariens looks to be a completely different platform?good or bad?not sure. It has the Hydro but if that ends up being more problematic down the line I can do with out that. I heard this ?Deere? is not really a ?Deere? and is over priced and parts might be hard to get. Again, I have no idea the plusses / minus between the two. I think t here is a cub cadet for $1499 in this arena as well.

GROUP 3 ? LOWES / SEARS / OTHER

Lowes sells Troy Built. They look like the toros but I could be wrong. I understand Sears makes some decent stuff but they sell so many different models I would not know which is a good one. I?ll consider GROUP 3 to be an area you may make a recommendation of anything other than the first two groups.

So will something from group 1 suffice or am I better off with something more like Group 2 or something else alltogether? I am hoping with regular maintenance to get 10+ years out of whatever I get?no laughing please!

Comments (11)

  • andrelaplume2
    Original Author
    12 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    btw...the group 2 Deere is 42"...typo.

  • bluemower
    12 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I cannot comment on the Ariens since I have not worked on one. The John Deere parts are easy to get from a JD dealer.

    The Poulan is part of the Husqvarna group. Many of the Sears riders are made by the Husqvarna group. Generally these hold up ok and parts are easy to get from the mower shops. These are fairly easy to maintain. If you look over the Sears, check the model number under the seat that begins with 917. The 247 models are made by another manufacturer and are usually lighter duty.

    Most of the troy bilt and bolens sold at lowes are (in my opinion)lighter duty than the mowers from the Husqvarna group. Both of these are manufactured by the MTD company. Parts are available from many dealers and the distributors. The Troybilt with the automatic is frequently the vari drive system. Belts are hard to change on models with the vari drive.

  • javert
    12 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    The Ariens is also a Husqvarna product. Some of the Poulans and Ariens do NOT have gauge wheels on the deck, nor any way to add them. This might be a factor if you have any uneven-ness or rough ground to mow. I feel that gauge wheels are a necessity.

  • andrelaplume2
    Original Author
    12 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    thanks for the comments so far....I did not know deere parts are only available from a deere dealer...sounds like parts could get pricey...no competition...?

  • larso1
    12 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    That's the common perception, but I have not found that to be the case with my JD Z425 for filters, plugs, oil and blades. And you can get pretty much most all replacement parts from dealers on e bay and others at better pricing in many cases.

  • andyma_gw
    12 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    what is wrong with Toro? A little timely TLC would cost less than a bottom feeder lawn tractor.

  • gdj204
    12 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    As others have said, if you're going to buy new, lean toward the Husqvarna units. Sears has a campaign out now (turf wars) to beat the price of other big box stores, so if you can figure out the comparable models, that may be an avenue to pursue. Just make sure you know if it's a Sears-branded MTD unit or Husqvarna unit.

    If you go the John Deere route, see if you have a local dealer nearby. If so, buy the tractor from the dealer, as it is the same price and you will establish a relationship with the business that will service your tractor if need be. Parts can also be found at many farm/ranch stores.

    If you're reasonably handy, you can get a decent older garden tractor for the same price as a new lawn tractor, and you will likely be money ahead ten years down the road...

  • gregamy
    12 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Consumer Reports just did an evaluation of lawn mowers and lawn tractors...

  • andrelaplume2
    Original Author
    12 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    re:
    what is wrong with Toro? A little timely TLC would cost less than a bottom feeder lawn tractor.

    I am not giving up on my little toro...I just wonder how long it can go....My Personal Pace, Echo trimmer and echo blower are all in the neighborhood of 12 years.....nothing lasts forever right?

  • User
    12 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    "... nothing lasts forever right?"

    For sure nothing new @ $1000 to $1500 and your Toro should outlast the new stuff at that price range.

    None of the choices you've listed are built of the same quality components as your Toro and they are all entry level (disposable) riding mowers.

    None of the choices you've listed will do anything the Toro isn't doing for you now... with the exception of the cup holder.

    Your Toro has already paid for itself a few times over what you'd buy now at $100-$1500 so why not let it continue to do so?

  • elaineycabaney
    12 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I am also researching a new mower for about an acre. For such a small yard you might consider a smaller deck as it will be easier to maneuver and the extra time is negligible. I'm considering the snapper mulching mower for $1,200, think the deck is 38" or less? You can do a search for Snapper.