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Tecumseh Engine no spark

finkstr
10 years ago

I have a Troy Bilt tiller withe the HH60 6hp Tecumseh engine. I was unable to start it this spring so I checked the fuel supply and found it ok. Next I checked for spark and found none. Given that the tiller is quite old - early 80"s, I decided to do a complete tuneup. I replaced the plug, condenser, points and coil and cleaned all contacts. Still no spark. I checked the "ground off switch" and found it ok, not grounding unless the throttle is closed all the way. However just in case I removed it totally. STILL NO SPARK! ANY SUGGESTIONS???

Comments (15)

  • ericwi
    10 years ago

    The high voltage pulse is generated by a magneto coil, and these units are subject to failure as they age. You can get the coil tested at a small engine shop that works on outboard motors. They should have a dynamic coil tester that will tell if the coil is working, or not. Coils are degraded by corrosion, and also by insulation failure. A bad connection somewhere is another possibility.

  • finkstr
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    Thanks so much for the info. However I need a little clarification. Is the "magneto coil" you refer to the same component usually referred to as the "coil"? If so I replaced it along with the condenser, points and plug. Honestly/ This is driving me NUTS!
    Thanks again!!!

  • ericwi
    10 years ago

    To generate a pulse of electricity, you have to move a magnetic field across a winding of wire, or move a winding of wire through a stationary magnetic field.
    In this case, there is a small permanent magnet fastened to the flywheel on your HH60 engine. If the magnet has somehow separated from the flywheel, and is missing, then there will be no pulse generated, and no spark. As a more general note, when the magnetic field is moving, and the coil is fixed, the device is called a magneto, or alternator. If the winding rotates, and the magnetic field is fixed, the device is called a generator.

  • finkstr
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    Thanks for the information as well as for the explanation. I inspected the flywheel when I replaced the points etc and the magnets seem ok,although slightly pitted. Also I made sure that the magneto was in the same place when I re-installed it. Given that the flywheel is keyed to the engine shaft, there is no possibility to install that part incorrectly. I also inspected all the wiring, looking for frayed wires, pinching etc. Everything seems ok. However, I do intend to take it apart again today and check everything once again. Any other suggestions on things to look for?

  • ericwi
    10 years ago

    I found a reference to a batch of bad magneto coils. These were brand new units, out of the box. You might have a defective coil. It can be tested with a volt-ohmeter. Well, at least you can verify continuity with a VOM.

  • fixingthings
    9 years ago

    Hi. I have the same events. I put a new magneto coil, spark plug wire, new plug, condenser and points. I rotate the flywheel by hand and get no spark. Then (can't explain why), I attach a basic electrical test light with one end in the spark plug and one end on the engine. I then hand turn the flywheel and get enough spark that causes me to drop the plug out of my hand. What am I missing to get enough spark to start this thing? Thanks.

  • bill_kapaun
    9 years ago

    The voltage required to fire a spark plug is much higher than required to knock you on you keister.

  • fixingthings
    9 years ago

    @Bill.....correct.. I gave the description with the hopes that it would lead someone to think of what would be preventing any spark from happening, but then with the light tester, some spark happens.

  • mownie
    9 years ago

    The part of Bill's reply that you might not understand is that a pulse of energy (voltage) from an ignition coil can be so weak that it will not arc across an open space, thus creating a "spark". A simple pulse of energy is not a spark.
    But even if it is too weak to create an actual arc, it still has enough voltage to be felt by a person.
    Basic test lights are not the proper tool to use when assessing ignition problems regarding spark output.

    I suggest you read all of the thread above once more to see if you might pick up on something to help you find out why your ignition output is so weak.
    Disconnect the kill wire from the magneto and see if spark occurs then.
    If spark occurs with the kill wire unplugged, there is a fault in the kill wire circuit that is stifling the magneto from making a realistic spark.

    This post was edited by mownie on Mon, Jun 9, 14 at 12:08

  • HU-212891410
    last year
    last modified: last year

    I have a similar issue with a Tecumseh 6.5hp.engine model # OH195EA. I've tried just about everything. Bought and tried two new ignition coils, plus a few older ones I've had around, New plugs. disconnected the kill wire, polished the magnets, set the air gap many times and all to no availe. I can get a weak spark to the tester, so weak I can hold the end of the tester and feel a slight spark. I've inspected the flywheel to make sure there were no cracks. Flywheel is keyed and in good shape. Anybody got any ideas before this engine goes to the dump ?

  • HU-937396169
    10 months ago

    I have the same issue, new magneto, no spark

  • Landon Tesar
    9 months ago

    might check the gap between the flywheel and the coil 'pickup' to be small enough so the energy is transferred...consider a way to make it smaller than it is now.

  • HU-937396169
    9 months ago

    Set it so the flywheel just clears, less than 10 thousants

  • HU-937396169
    9 months ago

    Still no spark, all grounds disconected including kill wire, has me baffled