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Posted by billlh zone 5 (My Page) on Sun, Aug 5, 07 at 18:20
| I'm looking at a Kubota B7100. It appears to be in excelent shape for it's age. This one has less than 500 hrs on the clock and has a 60" MMM. 2 speed hydrostatic trans. It's a lot cheaper then going with a new sub compact. I'm looking to use this with a bucket to move snow. I was thinking a FEL and a rear 3 point blower would make a good combination on this unit. So my question is what do you think of the deal, will I be able to find a FEL and a blower for it? I'll probably need R4 tires all around so I won't need chains. It has turf tires on it now, I'm thinking they aren't going to cut it. My driveway if you want to call it that, it's more like a parking lot, is about 60' square. Fairly flat ground. Right now its gravel, but I plan in the near future to put down concrete and blacktop. So a blower isn't going to work all that well by itself. Currently I'm using a pickup with a blade to clear the snow. My mechanic suggested recently I should jack up the plow and put a new truck under it! So I have a bit of a delema here. Do I buy another truck or do this with a tractor. Years ago I used a Bobcat skid steer at work with a bucket on it for clearing snow. I loved how that operated. But I've never used a tractor with a bucket for this purpose? Is it going to be somewhat the same? I'm thinking a FEL would come in handy at other times during the year also. I just bought the X465 for mowing but I really don't think even if I found a FEL for it that I would be happy with it for moving snow. Too small and only 2wd. I welcome your thoughts on this, thanks.
Bill |
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RE: Kubota B7100 what is one worth?
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I'm looking at a Kubota B7100 billlh =============== Here's one to compare it with. 2005 Kubota B7510 19 Months old. Only 48 hours. FEL Rear Blade 60'' MMM Really extra nice - Can't tell it from a new one. $12300. |
RE: Kubota B7100 what is one worth?
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| bill, With weights and chains your X would handle snowblowing that area just fine, though the hitch, shaft, bearing, and blower will be pricey. There are as many tractor owners who think industrial tires work better in snow as there are ones who think turf tires have an advantage. The Kubota is a diesel CUT and a whole different league. If you go to machinefinder.com you will be able to get a feel for regional pricing for a 7100. A FEL, though my favorite of all attachments, isn't my first choice for snow removal (they will handle anything thrown at it, but aren't the fastest way of removing snow). Cheers JDFANATIC |
RE: what is one worth?
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I just bought the X465 for mowing but I really don't think even if I found a FEL for it that I would be happy with it for moving snow. Too small and only 2wd. I welcome your thoughts on this, thanks. Bill ************* If this is a JD x465 and you put chains on the back tires and some extra weight on the rear it will move a lot of snow with a front blade. I cleared a few 10 to 14 inch deep snow falls and a bunch of 4 to 6 inch ones with my old Bolens 2 wheel drive with front blade by putting chains and a small bit of weight on it over the last 41 years. This Bolens is a lot smaller and much lighter than your x465. If the JD wont handle snow removal it's time to park it in the dumpster. |
RE: Kubota B7100 what is one worth?
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| With weights and chains your X would handle snowblowing that area just fine, though the hitch, shaft, bearing, and blower will be pricey. There are as many tractor owners who think industrial tires work better in snow as there are ones who think turf tires have an advantage. The Kubota is a diesel CUT and a whole different league. If you go to machinefinder.com you will be able to get a feel for regional pricing for a 7100. A FEL, though my favorite of all attachments, isn't my first choice for snow removal (they will handle anything thrown at it, but aren't the fastest way of removing snow). Cheers JDFANATIC ********* I think you missed the point here JDFANATIC. It's one thing to blow a narrow drive. I'm trying to clear basically a small parking lot. I'll just be reblowing the same snow 2 or 3 times. Don't get me wrong there are places I would indeed use a blower. But in the middle of this lot it ain't going to work so well. Speed isn't really the goal here. If it was, the answer would be simple, just replace the truck. Few things will clear that area faster then a pickup truck with a full size blade on it. I'm really looking for a cheaper and more useful solution. A truck mounted snow blade has only one purpose. A FEL on the other hand can be used year round. And if it works anything like my old skid steer I used at work did. It would be an easy an fun process removing the snow. The X465 with a blade might handle it most of the time. Thing is living on the shores of lake Erie we do at times get dumped on. That's why I wanted a bigger tractor so I won't get caught with too small a machine to handle whatever we get. I have an old Bolens H16 with both a blower and a blade,and I've run into situations where it just wouldn't push the enormous volume of snow we got. The blower might have work had I had it mounted at the time or felt well enough to mount it on the tractor. It still would have taken me forever to move it all. I ended up that time having a guy with a truck come in and remove the snow. He made a total mess of my driveway and the yard. Thats why I bought my own truck. I'm much more careful plowing when the yard is soft. Thanks, Bill |
RE: Kubota B7100 what is one worth?
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| Bill, I'm sorry, I did miss the implications of the parking lot. Not trying to be smart, I guess the 10,800+ s.f. driveway I maintain is far too small to be anything more than annecdotal. But since you press the issue, I think a tractor/FEL combination will be even less productive than almost any other combination you conjure up. It will, of course, clear the snow, but to do so requires you drive forward until the bucket is full (yes, you can continue to do so past this point, but where is the snow going?), then lift the bucket, back up, turn, go foward, dump the snow, backup, turn, go foward, and then grab another bucket-load. From just the description I'm exhausted. The question is, are you? Cheers, JDFANATIC |
RE: Kubota B7100 what is one worth?
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| Sorry I wasn't trying to be smart either JD. And I'd say your driveway is pretty big. But doing a driveway is a bit different then a parking lot. You can't throw snow with a blower 60 feet. Or at least none of the blowers I've ever had would. Somehow I don't remember that old skid steer as being all that much work. Maybe because I was so much younger? A blower would be great if all I had was a driveway 20 some feet wide. I just don't see it working for me. Really I'm just looking for a way to clear the snow. I'm open to suggestions. We get large lake effect storms here that can really bury you. I'm looking for an alternative to the truck. That's why I'm interested in a bigger tractor with 4wd. Maybe a sub cut with a front blade and a blower would work? I'm asking because I don't have any experience here. My goal is to find something I won't need chains on and will give me summer options besides just the wiinter one. Thanks, Bill |
RE: Kubota B7100 what is one worth?
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| Billh, Hello from the east end of Lake Ontario. Having also lived in Orchard Park on Lake Erie, I dare say we get a little more snow here in an average winter. Over the past 11 years we have cleared our 50'x50' parking area with a 1996 Troybilt 24" walk-behind with no problems. You simply have to go out and clear the snow when it is ~ 20", 24/7. It takes me ~30 minutes to clear along with walkways. Front end loaders are only used in these parts to move snow banks further back. No people that I know of clear their snow only with a FEL, it is too much work. Google "3 point hitch snowblower buffalo", you will get many hits. A single or double auger 3-point blower is very popular around here on utility tractors. SCUT and CUT tractors mostly use a front blower. |
RE: Kubota B7100 what is one worth?
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| bill, In reality, you only need a tractor that will throw the snow ~ 30'. A 2-stage blower should be able to accomplish this if you begin in the center. A 4WD CUT with a plow would also work. Since you lot is fairly level, I suspect it would be fine without chains (my driveway does have quite a slope and I don't use chains with my JD2210). Ice would be a challenge though. Cheers JDFANATIC |
RE: Kubota B7100 what is one worth?
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- Posted by mith South England (My Page) on
Tue, Aug 7, 07 at 16:48
I saw a tool for finding the price on a used tractor on a forum today, link at the bottom of the post. A little research and it should give you an idea of what to pay. The B7100 is a serious tractor. A loader is going to act like a big snow blade that you can lift. Many people use a loader successfully for clearing snow. |
Here is a link that might be useful: tractor price tool
RE: Kubota B7100 what is one worth?
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| mith, Actually a loader doesn't act like a big snow blade that you can lift. It acts like a big bucket that when filled has to be dumped as I described above, or will just push a bigger and bigger pile of snow in front of it. It also has the propensity to make really long tears in the lawn adjacient to the drive you are trying to clear. Trust me, I know. :) Cheers JDFANATIC |
RE: Kubota B7100 what is one worth?
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- Posted by mith South England (My Page) on
Wed, Aug 8, 07 at 10:20
| "or will just push a bigger and bigger pile of snow in front of it" Isn't that what a blade does? Clearly it doesnt push the snow on an angle like a blade, but it will push it off the drive. You can get blades to fit on your FEL anyway. |
RE: Kubota B7100 what is one worth?
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| mith, The reason a blade angles is to furrow the snow off to the side. A FEL just keep piling it up in front of the bucket. Even a 4WD diesel CUT will struggle with a large pile to push after a while. You can do it, but it isn't the fastest or most efficient way of moving snow. I've even taken off my blower, thinking winter is over, and gotten caught with a surprise 20" snowfall. Though I could handle it with the FEL, on those occassions I still went through the effort to get the blower and hitch out and back on the tractor. An angling plow on the FEL is the cat's meow, but it is pricey (requiring a 3rd SCV, plus the plow and mountion hardware). Besides, what do you guys over there in England know about snow anyway? :) Cheers JDFANATIC |
RE: Kubota B7100 what is one worth?
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| I believe there's something on the page below, which will handle it. They are great to watch in action! |
Here is a link that might be useful: Snow removal!
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