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| I have spent countless hours reading through the conifer forums, the maple forums and the tree forums, and for some reason have trouble finding any information on some cultivars. Is it that nobody has them or has had them in their gardening experience, or are they just too rare in the trade? Does anybody know anything about styrax japonicus evening light and frosted emerald, acer conspicuum esk flamingo, and cupressus chaparral. I'm looking for success stories, overall size, any pictures, problems or disease. Anybody? |
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| And also about acer campestre carnival... |
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- Posted by ken_adrian z5 (My Page) on Mon, Jan 28, 13 at 12:27
| keefes ... welcome to GW .. next... study your chapperal ... you will 'see' an annual growth rate ... just trace back branches.. and you will see yearly differences.. as the bark ages ... and when you figure that out.. that is your annual growth rate.. and with trees.. of which conifers are.. simply presume.. that they will grow at that rate for the rest of your life... which is a long way of saying.. there is NO ULTIMATE size ... pests and diseases.. will be consistent with the first two latin anmes ... the third name.. which is usually in quotes.. the cultivar name.. makes no difference.. so when looking that up ... just look up ... e.g. acer campestre about the only time.. the cultivar name will make a difference.. is when said cultivar.. has white tissue ... which sun burns freely.. so more shade is usually suggested for the foo-est of the foo .... i suspect you want hard and fast answers.. to things.. that basically you will have to find out in your garden .. based on your planting.. your mulching.. your aftercare.. number of hours of sun.. what time of day that sun hits ... etc .... we all went thru this frustration when we started ... but i didnt have the WWW to find out more.. but todays problem.. is too much info from the WWW ... lol ... you like .. you buy .... you plant .. and you hope for the best.. but dont get paralyzed by a lack of information specific to some plant that interests you ... frankly.. if its zone appropriate.. plant the darn thing ... perhaps.. buy it first.. lol ... i am not a fan of buying 8 foot trees in pots.. if that one fails.. IMHO.. its because of the size you bought .... good luck ... i hope someone with experience rolls thru .... with the specific info you want ... ken |
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| Hi ken, I knew you'd have some advice for me. I didn't actually buy the eight footer in a pot, it was a hand dug B&B, and I bought a hand dug 20 foot gold rush metasequoia at the same time. With trees that large, once they're in the ground, is the only thing I need to concentrate on the deep watering of them for a few years? |
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- Posted by toronado3800 Z6 St. Louis (My Page) on Mon, Jan 28, 13 at 17:55
| Good god! Thats too much work. IMO larger the transplant the lower percentage of root mass the tree kept and the more likely it is you will need to stake the darned thing. 20 foot tall Gold Rush/Ogon?!?!?! How did ya plant it? Almost a decade back my neighbor and I dug up and transplanted a White Ash growing at the edge of my gravel overflow parking area. It was about my height. Man that was some work and we butchered some roots. And it is still alive in his yard. Just last year the memory had faded enough for me to transplant a cre(a)pe myrtle which was about as tall as I. Ug what work lol. Guess it is like the gals forgetting the pain of child birth and wanting to do it again. |
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| I had the hole dug prior to the tree arriving, and when it came on the flat bed, me and five guys just rolled it straight off into the hole. The root ball was five feet across and five feet deep. One heck of a hole to dig by hand.... |
This post was edited by keefesn1 on Mon, Jan 28, 13 at 18:13
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- Posted by ken_adrian z5 (My Page) on Mon, Jan 28, 13 at 18:19
| very frankly.. AFTERCARE ... mulch and the deep PROPER watering.. is the single most important variable in success ... too many peeps think a little spray with the pistol grip.. is called watering ... second variable.. soil type.. so you dont drown it.. like the other spectrum of peeps who dig a clay cauldron.. and fill it with plant and water.. and basically drown the thing ... the plant has to be happy enough.. to regrow the root mass lost in the digging .. and i am not even going to address the issue of an 8 foot tree that has been pot grown for life ... sounds like you are on the right track.. ken |
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- Posted by formandfoliage 9b (Sunset zone 15) (My Page) on Mon, Jan 28, 13 at 20:00
| I have an Acer campestre 'Carnival' - pretty much what you see is what you get...although my suspicion is that it will outgrow some spots that I've seen it in. I also have an Acer c. 'Compacta' which has a much more compact growth habit. 'Carnival' is a beautiful plant. |
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