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Identify this clumping tree in winter?

Ruth_MI
10 years ago

My son has an offer in on his first house, and is just waiting for the inspection.

This tree is in front of the house, and I'm wondering what it could be. (I'm mostly hoping it's not a fast growing junk tree that he'll need to spend lots to take down.)

It's a Fannie Mae-owned home, so he can't ask the current owners. It's in zone 6, western Michigan.

Any ideas? Thank you.

Comments (17)

  • Ruth_MI
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    Best I could do for leaves was from Google Street View, so very blurry

  • Ruth_MI
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    The whole tree.

  • Iris GW
    10 years ago

    I'd say it might be a maple.

  • Huggorm
    10 years ago

    A close up pic of the twigs and buds would help identify it

  • Embothrium
    10 years ago

    Elm or hack-berry.

  • Ruth_MI
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    Thanks for the input so far...really appreciate it. I'll see if he has a picture of the buds/twigs, and if not, ask him to take one.

  • j0nd03
    10 years ago

    Whatever it is, thankfully it appears to be leaning away from the house. That is a disaster waiting to happen with all of those bark inclusions!

    Saving up for removal and then planting of a more appropriate well sited tree will increase the visual appeal of the property and the home.

    As for the ID, I'd lean towards an elm based on the bark and weeping habit of the foliage. Probably a slippery or American elm.

  • jon3333
    10 years ago

    I am 98% sure that tree is an American Elm and 100% sure that it is an Elm. Watch out for DED and make sure that none of the large trunks are angled toward the house. If this were my house and assuming the tree poses a minimal threat to the house, I would begin planting a few replacement trees now so that when that tree does either get DED or the poor trunk angles get the best of it, some shade would still be present. At any rate, enjoy the new house!

  • ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5
    10 years ago

    first pic.. left most trunk sure looks like it is leaning toward the house ...

    in MI i would fear siberian elm ... carp tree ...

    and it looks vaguely like a silver maple ....

    i have never seen a hack that big in MI ... but that means little ...

    i doubt we can ever be sure on these pix ...

    house looks really nice.. i suppose it might be a function of the reduced price of the house.. including anticipatory removal ... if an ID could ever be perfected ...

    when might it need to be removed.. oh.. sometime in the next 20 years.. hopefully the season prior to the next worst ice storm ....

    an offer on the house.. could be made contingent on .. not only a house inspection.. but a tree inspection .... by an ASA certified tree inspector ... might be worth the couple hundred bucks ... if for no other reason.. peace of mind ...

    i cant recall who. but there is some guy who hangs around the tree forum.. who has an inordinate fear of trees killing him in his sleep ... if only it was hanging over the garage ...

    again.. first pic.. i already see a huge healed??? removal scar.. wonder what that is all about???

    finally.. how far from the house.. looks like less than 6 feet in the first pic???

    ken

    EDIT: to add link ... i actually met William "Doc" Pickhardt.. in relation to an emprelis claim .... and he seemed to know his stuff.. though i dont know if you would want to put him on the clock to drive across MI ....

    Here is a link that might be useful: link

    This post was edited by ken_adrian on Mon, Jan 13, 14 at 9:57

  • j0nd03
    10 years ago

    There is also a very real possibility that the 6 stem clump facing the camera in the first pic is a separate organism than the larger trunk closest to the house. If this were the case they could be the same species or unrelated species (I believe they are all elms). Your last picture to me really looks as if there are two different growth habits emerging from all of those trunks.

    If this were the case, the 6 in the clump out front would be evaluated separately from the 1 directly behind them. Sometimes when people mow, they miss seedlings and suckers that emerge close to the stem of the tree they are mowing around and situations like this happen as a result =)

  • whaas_5a
    10 years ago

    I'd vote Hackberry but can't say for sure.

    Doesn't really matter as that is a tree I'd remove in a heartbeat, as in the day I get ownership before I even more in.

  • Ruth_MI
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    He doesn't have a picture showing the buds/twigs, but I've asked him to get one. I've passed along all the comments too.

    I appreciate everyone taking the time to share their knowledge. It helps!

  • wisconsitom
    10 years ago

    It looks elm-ish. Quite the hodge-podge of stems there! Safety is an issue, of course.

    +oM

  • hairmetal4ever
    10 years ago

    Regardless the species, I'd probably remove it sooner than later.

    I'd go w/Hackberry initially, but some type of Elm is possible, but I'm just echoing others now.

  • j0nd03
    10 years ago

    The hackberry suggestions are interesting as the local 2 main species of hackberry have very warty bark with protrusions all over much different than what we see above - which appears to be typical american/slippery elm bark. It will certainly be a learning moment for me when the ID is zeroed in =)

  • famartin
    10 years ago

    Twigs would help a lot.

  • lucky_p
    10 years ago

    I'm with j0nd03 - the 6 trunks emanating in the foreground of the photo look like elm, but the large upright trunk in the middle/background looks more like mockernut hickory, or black walnut, to me.