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Posted by
wxman81 5b, SE WI (
My Page) on
Fri, Feb 3, 12 at 23:43
| Here are some pictures of my Magnolia 'Edith Bogue' I planted last April. Anything I should do for it / trim off of it to grow it into a nice specimen? Want to prune right to ensure best / fastest growth and shape.
I live in SE WI.
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RE: Magnolia 'Edith Bogue'
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| Did you buy it like that? |
RE: Magnolia 'Edith Bogue'
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| Yes, that is how it came. It flushed a bunch of leaves out after planting. What's wrong with it? |
RE: Magnolia 'Edith Bogue'
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| Boy, you are really pushing the zonal hardiness up there in WI! I think rhizo was referring to the relative lack of side branches lower on the plant but I don' t think it looks too bad, nor would eliminate the chance of lower branches developing. If your tree does succeed, it will eventually cast a deep shade beneath it--the variegaed Yuccas will have to be relocated. Again assuming success, your Trachys will eventually be in deeper shade. I only prune the Magnolias if they suffer snow damage.. I have several cultivas of the Southern and this is a cultivar that has no problem with heavy, wet snows. In fact, when the East Coast had the freak October snow, the Northern deciduouis 'saucer' Manolias were heavily damaged but Edith bogue (along with the Victorias) were completely undamaged. I would suggest you apply an anti dessicant spray to the leaves in the Fall for the first several seasons esp. if your winter sun is strong. Good luck with it. P.S. I use the high acid HollyTone on mine but sure you'll find other suggestions here. |
RE: Magnolia 'Edith Bogue'
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| The pictures cannot be taken in SE WI. In the picture, croton is growing as shrub in the street. This shrub need at least zone 10 to survive outside like that. |
RE: Magnolia 'Edith Bogue'
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| Yep, these pics are taken in SE WI. I go through great lengths to develop my garden each spring. The croton comes inside the house in the winter months. I don't think the Edith Bogue will shade out the Trachys too bad because it is to the northwest of them. And it will be awhile until it reaches a larger size. Yuccas should be fine for awhile too. They were partly shaded all last summer and had no ill effects. I remove branches on trees up to a height of 10 feet and this allows a lot of light in. I'm actually wondering how the Magnolia and Maple Tree will interact together. I've pruned the maple back a bit after planting the Edith Bogue. Here is a picture from November to prove this is Wisconsin, lol. 
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One more shot ...
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| Here's one more shot of the yard from much earlier last summer. Magnolia is on far left of this picture. Far enough away from the Maple? It has clear air above it. 
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There are plants that are attractive in your zone and region
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| I would not be surprised if you have underground heating for your special garden :-) There are attractive plants for your region such as Weigela (or Weigelia?) and mock orange. |
RE: Magnolia 'Edith Bogue'
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| They look interesting. I'm trying to stay away from deciduous, however. Love foliage year round. |
RE: Magnolia 'Edith Bogue'
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- Posted by j0nd03 7 west/central AR (My Page) on
Sat, Feb 4, 12 at 10:52
| You have a very pretty garden setting, nice work! But, IMO, that maple is so close to the magnolia and has such a head start, the magnolia will have an interesting time as it grows up. I think the maple will cover a lot of lateral ground while the magnolia is getting rooted in and concentrating its growth in the vertical direction not leaving much room to "spread out" when it matures. I think this cultivar is rather narrow to begin with though so you have that going for you, which is nice. I think if they had been planted at the same time and around the same size there would be no problem when they grew into each other. In this situation you have, I am not so sure it sill turn out like you have it in your head. Just all my opinion and I could be way off! I would probably relocate the magnolia if it were me, though. Eh maybe it's just the lack of sleep last night talking, just enjoy it while it's healthy :) John |
RE: Magnolia 'Edith Bogue'
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| wow.. you do live in that area of the country called zone denial .. lol .. all the power to ya .... which is not a river in WI ... lol ... now i know why you are growing SOUTHERN mag's .. lol ... great job .... ken |
RE: Magnolia 'Edith Bogue'
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| What is zone denial? Interesting phrase. |
RE: Magnolia 'Edith Bogue'
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- Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
Sat, Feb 4, 12 at 12:51
| Typical habit for this as seen here. If you want a tree shape, with a section of clear stem, you are all ready to go. There is nothing to be pruned off, especially when the top is already on the small side. A similar specimen I was growing in western USDA 8 lost all of its side branches to wet snow one year. I cut it down. Hopefully yours will hold up better in your climate, we have cool summers here that do not mature and harden the shoots of hot climate trees and shrubs very well. |
RE: Magnolia 'Edith Bogue'
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| Is that a windmill palm by the house covered with snow in 1 pic? I wanted to try one, they are zone 7 in catalogs. I have a croton as a houseplant, so you bury the pot in the ground in summer? I may try that. You have to be in one heck of a micro-climate. I know someone with heated floors and they have a Canna in-ground right next to the foundation and the heating inside keeps that area from freezing the roots, as well as being in the city, she probably is zone 7 right next to her brick house. I know I'm off topic from the Edith Bogue. I have the Mag Grandifolia if the one you have is the same size when mature how will it fit where you have it? |
RE: Magnolia 'Edith Bogue'
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| I just assumed you would cut down the maple once the good stuff grew in a bit! Love the plantings. Have you been there long? |
RE: Magnolia 'Edith Bogue'
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| I love my maples and magnolias! Time will tell how much that maple competes with the Mag.. Mags will get VERY big though if they are happy. |
RE: Magnolia 'Edith Bogue'
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I love that tree. I just planted one last summer. I was worried about how it was going to hold up but we've had a 7b winter here so far so it hasn't been much of an experiment.
Your magnolia looks great. Do you protect your windmill palms? How long have they been there?
I had a crepe myrtle survive last winter that was brutal but it was killed back to the roots. This year my crepe myrtle probably won't have any dead branches if this warmth keeps up. |
RE: Magnolia 'Edith Bogue'
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- Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
Sun, Feb 5, 12 at 14:07
| Windmill palm tends to be good to about 10 degrees F. in my area. At or below that it starts to burn. I've seen it damaged close in, where it gets colder - despite salt water being quite near - than elsewhere in the area. But there are also a few specimens scattered around where it surely gets as cold or colder rather often - there could be some variation in tolerance among seedlings or on different sites. Factors like soil texture and drainage can affect winter survival of plants. |
RE: Magnolia 'Edith Bogue'
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Here is a mini-park in a town in NE Maryland. I assume that the DPW comes in annually and gives the magnolias a haircut with a bucket lift. This doesn't seem to effect their blooming. W/O this treatment the trees would be double the height and much more open. I think that the dense branching is not as vulnerable to snow breakage as the normal branching.
Now OP, tell us what you do with the palms in the winter? |
RE: Magnolia 'Edith Bogue'
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- Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
Mon, Feb 6, 12 at 13:52
| There are other cultivars that look like that (these don't look like 'Edith Bogue' in this view), have you seen pruning cuts? |
RE: Magnolia 'Edith Bogue'
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| Isn't Maryland zone 7 anyway? I think Southern live oak will grow there sam-md. There are what appears to be blue spruce in the backround of the OP's picture on top. I wonder how they are going to like the sudden zone 7 winters. We have 2 here and have had zone 7 winters. My Norway spruce are growing slower than they are supposed to, maybe the lack of enough cold is why? |
RE: Magnolia 'Edith Bogue'
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| I'm amazed. Nice job. "I'm trying to stay away from deciduous, however. Love foliage year round." I can offer no advice on your 'Edith Bogue' but a conifer or two might do well in there. Chamaecyparis obusa 'Melody' or 'Meroke' perhaps. Which direction does the house face? tj |
RE: Magnolia 'Edith Bogue'
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| Here is a 10 year old Edith in zone 7 Maryland poor soil. She's beautiful in person; I send this not good photo so you can see size. |
RE: Magnolia 'Edith Bogue'
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| I just saw these photos! Wow! Are any of you trying her in clay soil (She was raised in mine, but she's sinking into thick clay that I'm worried will be too heavy for her as she's lost some roots).. water less, I know.. I'm looking at the zones too, some of the trees in zones closer to mine (zone 6) look kinda exposed (As my tree is, she'll be facing a north wind tunnel in winter... *cringe*).. The last photo, in maryland of the ten year old tree, is like a magazine shot!
Amy How wide a planting space are you leaving for her roots? I hear not to break roots, compact soil, but then for unavoidable reasons some roots had to be).. plus the dogs, thus a fence.. Photos are great, I love this tree, I pray she survives! |
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