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Drainage for Quercus Muellenbergii

Posted by poaky1 6 Pa (My Page) on
Mon, Mar 5, 12 at 18:58

I want to move my Chinquapin oak to replace my Sycamore in the front yard that is in bad shape and has to go. Chinkapin oak is said to need well drained soil, PH isn't much of an issue in my yard. It will be in well drained soil at the top of a slight slope until you get around 20 ft from the trunk, then it starts to pool little by little. Arbor day says it can take wet soil, which I don't trust. Another site says swampy soil is okay and turns around and in another paragraph says needs good drainage. I can move the oak ten feet up from where the sycamore was but not much more or I'll be too close to other large at maturity trees. I may not get to read your answers right away, I am going out of town, but give me any answers. I have many trees in the wet area that definately like or take those wet conditions, I want to use the chinquapin oak because I already have it. It's in my microclimate and I want to keep other more tender things where I (stupidly) put this very hardy tree. I have another hardy tree in there in case the tenders don't take next years winter. I have a Quercus Virginiana still green in this microclimate and Quercus Fusiformis acorns in the ground, so need to move this oak. Sorry this is so darn long.


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RE: Drainage for Quercus Muellenbergii

My trip is postponed for a few days, I just found out so I can check if anyone answers this post.


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RE: Drainage for Quercus Muellenbergii

They grow near creeks which can be both wet and dry at certain times of the year. I don't think I would worry about it as long as you planted it right.


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RE: Drainage for Quercus Muellenbergii

It grows around here on shallow clay soils overlaying limestone. It has very poor drainage and tends to pool water during the spring and after heavy rains but when it does dry out during the summer, it is so dry that sugar maple and white ash are very scarce.


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RE: Drainage for Quercus Muellenbergii

IMHO ....

whether a mature tree.. which puts its roots where it wants .. can handle water.. versus

a recent transplant .. the transpalnt needs help to be able to cope with whatever you do with it ... until it can put its roots where it wants them ...

so as dricha said .... plant it PROPERLY .. with proper drainage ... etc ... and you should be all set ...

potential water 20 feet away.. should not be an issue for 4 or 5 years ... [if we were to suggest that roots have the potential to grow as fast as the crown does.. and i do not know that science ....].. and by that time.. the tree will have put its roots where it can cope ...

e.g. the swamp trees in FL .... they can grow there naturally .. but if you were to go try to plant one in a foot of water.. i would suggest it will die ....

ken


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RE: Drainage for Quercus Muellenbergii

It will be in good drainage for about 30 ft if I plant it about 10 ft from the sycamore. I've heard about the ph, I'm near neutral, so it'll be fine. The place it's going is just moist in summer unless we get tons of rain. On another note I have wondered if the cypress trees in the Bayous die how can the baby cypress get a foothold? Yes I've been watching "swamp people" on tv.


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The few Chinkapin Oak I have seen down here and in Oklahoma have always been near running water. As others have mentioned if you plant yours in a well-drained spot at least a few feet from wet spot it should do fine.

Older Bald Cypress may be dieing because of too much salt water or too much permanent standing water. The young trees will probably not regenerate in these areas. Typically the mature trees can take standing permanent water up to the top of the trunk swell or flare which is usually several feet above their knees.


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RE: Drainage for Quercus Muellenbergii

It will be in good drainage for about 30 ft

===>>> exactly.. i dont see it growing 30 feet of roots.. into a bad spot.. and die ..

one would expect a tree to have a better survival instinct ... or an ability to cope ...

ken


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RE: Drainage for Quercus Muellenbergii

It should be fine. I transplanted it yesterday. It was nice out yesterday, I got a few things accomplished outside. Torrential rain today though.


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