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| I purchased a Quercus robur 'Aureomarginata' in a #1, with stunning foliage evident even in so small a plant. When I began to read about it, it seems it is variously called Q. robur 'Variegata' or Q. robur 'Argenteomarginata'. Anybody know what the correct name is? Or are they actually different plants? |
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| Multiple cultivars of f. variegata have been grown. Presumably one called 'Aureovariegata' would be marked with yellow, whereas 'Argenteomarginata' should indicate white edging. What coloration does yours have? |
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- Posted by ken_adrian z5 (My Page) on Wed, Apr 4, 12 at 12:14
| when are you going to get a camera??? does it look like this?? i have it as Quercus robur 'Argenteo Marginata' [no idea why there is a space there ...] but i think i bought it as 'Variegated English oak' and the BEST PART ... striped acorns ... ken its in front of the larger oak behind ..
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- Posted by formandfoliage 9b (Sunset zone 15) (My Page) on Wed, Apr 4, 12 at 12:58
| Thx for photos, Ken - that looks like my memory of mine. I have a camera but it wouldn't do us much good right now - the tree hasn't leafed out yet! Love the idea of variegated acorns. Ron, any idea if it is 'Aureo Marginata' or 'Aureomarginata'? I've never seen that epithet broken up into two words but there is always a first time. Or, should it be 'Argenteomarginata'? I will report back - with photos - once I have some leaves! |
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| If yours turns out to be the one usually seen on the market here - the one Ken has - then no combination involving "Aureo" should be involved. |
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- Posted by formandfoliage 9b (Sunset zone 15) (My Page) on Wed, Apr 4, 12 at 22:53
| Oops sorry - meant to write 'argenteo' not 'aureo'. I think it is the same as Ken's - the question is one word or two? The buds are swelling but it will be another week or two until it leafs and I can verify. |
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| Check this out. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Quercus robur 'Aureovariegata' - Full Name Report From The Oak ICRA Checklist
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- Posted by ken_adrian z5 (My Page) on Thu, Apr 5, 12 at 8:21
| so which name is mine?? see link ... Quercus robur 'Argenteomarginata' or Quercus robur 'Argenteovariegata' or one of the other versions ... obviously the space has to go ... thx ken |
Here is a link that might be useful: link
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- Posted by formandfoliage 9b (Sunset zone 15) (My Page) on Thu, Apr 5, 12 at 9:49
| Wow! A new resource...thank you! I have to wait and see what mine looks like when it leafs out but my memory is that it looks just like Ken's, which would seem to make it 'Argenteomarginata'. The variegation on mine is definitely white, not yellow. More soon. What on earth do other people do for amusement? |
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| Watch TV. |
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- Posted by formandfoliage 9b (Sunset zone 15) (My Page) on Thu, Apr 5, 12 at 14:05
| I tried that but I couldn't find the conifer channel. |
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| Well you should take up golf then. Lots of conifers on the golf course as well as deciduous trees and an abundance of wildlife if you find a nice course away from the city. My favorite thing to do lately is try to ID the understory plants while golfing, especially at places I don't go to very often. The last place I went to in Danville, AR had Callicarpa americana (American beautyberry) EVERYWHERE! It was really neat. Another local course has a bunch of dogwoods and a course in Stillwater, OK has a near monoculture of redbuds in the understory. Always neat things to discover when the occasional errant shot rears its ugly head. John |
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- Posted by ken_adrian z5 (My Page) on Thu, Apr 5, 12 at 15:41
| My favorite thing to do lately is try to ID the understory plants while golfing, ==>> real gardeners have no time for ANY golf ... golf is a good way.. to ruin a walk in a nice garden .. ken so which name is proper??? |
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| pfft... So does that make me a gardening golfer instead of a golfing gardener? Come on Ken, try to think of golf courses as arboretums instead ;) That course in Danville also contains the only two native cherrybark oaks I have positively ID'd in AR not to mention several humongous native willow oaks. There is always a nice variety of natives to enjoy that is vastly different than the woods even a couple miles down the road. Golf courses also sometimes have rivers or streams that ups the diversity even more! Sorry to get OT, I will mind my own business now. John |
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- Posted by formandfoliage 9b (Sunset zone 15) (My Page) on Fri, Apr 6, 12 at 11:49
| I like the idea of a either a golfing gardener or a gardening golfer! I don't golf but when I would find myself at some kind of 'resort' on a business trip, I would amuse myself in whatever leisure time there was by walking around on the golf course (on paths, not on the fairways) and looking at the plantings. Some were pedestrian but as John notes, some were interesting and every now and again downright gorgeous. |
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| There's a course in Seattle that has at least a few interesting trees but if you try to walk around in it - even staying just on the paved paths - golfers lob balls right past you like you aren't there. It is not pleasant, unless you go there at specific times when there is little golfing. |
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| Hi I am resurrecting this thread to ask any of the owners of variegated english oak, how th tree is doing and if they have a feel for how big it gets. Is it a dwarf plant or is it like the cerris version? |
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| The variegated Turkey oak, in my experience grows as at snail's pace and is very rare. The variegated English oak I would expect to be the bigger tree, most of the time. I have seen it at retail outlets here, well above head height. |
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- Posted by ken_adrian z5 (My Page) on Mon, Nov 12, 12 at 7:08
| mine is probably going on 20+ feet after 10 years ... somewhat columnar ... it has an annual growth rate of .. guessing.. 18 to 24 inches per year.. and being a tree.. think of that as forever ... sooo.. 2 feet per year.. 10 years.. mine is 20ish ... there you go ... the striped acorns are really cool ... ken |
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| Thanks bboy and ken! robur it is then, (even though cerris has, by far, my favourite leaf shape, for an oak...) |
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- Posted by ken_adrian z5 (My Page) on Mon, Nov 12, 12 at 10:43
| i put this in the post .. but feared you wouldnt come back: hey!!!!! i try to grow one of everything in my z5 ... and i NEVER HEARD of a turkey oak ... which tells my gut its not z5 ... and google says its not a z5 plant ... now get this.. some claim the var'd one to be OK in z5 .. but not the green one ... and that aint right ... since most likely.. it will be grafted onto the green one ... you are making the right decision.. but perhaps for the wrong reason ... never forget.. there isnt a micro climate.. once your tree hits 20 feet .. or lesser of one... ken |
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| Yes, Ken you have a very good point, and that is precisely why I recently reconsidered my choice of putting a quercus pagoda (barely z5, apparently) in between my house and my exterior building. I thought "it will be fine, probably, until it grows beyond the roof, but then..." So now I have to find a reasonably fast growing (should be faster than the sassafrases that I am planning to put behind it) tree that I can trust in iowa's winds and temperatures and that can take heat like a champ... I am leaning towards a hybrid oak. |
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| Wind blowing along walls can be worse than out in the open. That's why you see phrases like "sheltered wall" (or corner) when providing protected planting sites is being talked about. |
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| Yes, I get wind tunnels along the sides of my house. They are the worst areas for wind. Both where east/west facing. |
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