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Mon, Apr 2, 12 at 14:07
| Our Ash will probably not come back 100% this year (maybe 50-70%). For the last couple of years we've had some late snow that stunted new growth on large sections of our Ash tree in front of the house (full northern exposure).
I really liked this tree as it wasn't too large, not a large front yard, didn't over power the house, and provided a nice umbrella-type of shade. I'm disappointed but will probably have to have it taken out as it just looks funny, with only partial leafing. Can anyone else suggest a replacement tree? I don't like any spruces and still like the size of an Ash and umbrella like coverage. I like a larger leaf but not a huge root system. We will most likely get a mature tree installed as I don't want to wait 10-20 years for it to grow to a sizeable height. Suggestions? Thanks! |
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| The snow shouldn't cause that, it's probably something else. You may need to find out what, in case it would also affect a replacement tree. |
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- Posted by ken_adrian z5 (My Page) on Mon, Apr 2, 12 at 15:21
| how old is it.. did you plant.. if so, how??? .. how big was the transplant.. ball/burlap or potted .. etc how big is the lot.. etc... we need some facts .. soil.. elevation ... lot size.. etc ... other than wanting a tree.. you havent given us much to work with ... ken |
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- Posted by wisconsitom 4/5 WI (My Page) on Mon, Apr 2, 12 at 17:41
| ......and, moving a "mature tree" into your yard is apt to disappoint. Very large trees, when moved, spend a lot of time trying to regenerate that part of their root system that was lost in the move. Meanwhile, a smaller transplant right nearby, having lost relatively less of it's root system, quickly adapts to its new home and is off and running. Trees grow faster than many if not most peeps think they do. Especially small trees, properly planted into situations that suit them. +oM |
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| The tree was already there when we moved in 8 years ago and it looked to be about 10 years old by the growth/size of it then. I lost a middle section one winter about five years ago, early winter as the leaves hadn't fallen yet and I didn't know at the time about shaking it to remove the snow. The lot it sits on is probably about 400 square feet or so. I don't know how it was planted. I was told by our counties' horticulture department that Ash don't fair so well here and that it might be at it's end stages. Though I know others who have had Ash trees a lot longer. It was a very nice tree before it started losing love in sections. Oh and it sits in the middle of the lawn at peak and then he lawn starts sloping at a mild grade. Don't know the soil content but the horticulture department also mention when Ash are in the middle of the lawn and sprinklers water, the tree ends up getting too much water. Ok, I think that's about as much info as I know. |
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| I meant to say losing life, not love, in sections. Oh and Wisconsitom you bring up a good point regarding planting a mature tree. Thanks! |
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| So does anyone have a tree suggestion? If it helps...here is a picture of the tree four years ago. As you can see, two sections were already dead/dying at that time. It gives you an idea of the space. [IMG]http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c249/penaddict/IMG_1161.jpg[/IM G] |
Here is a link that might be useful: Ash Tree
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| And here is another picture taken last year (2011), Spring. Hope this helps.
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Here is a link that might be useful: Additional picture of Ash tree
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| Definitely time for removal. But it would be prudent as bboy suggested to try to find out why it failed. Whether it was borers or improper planting etc. Are you in a particularly dry part of CO? What is your annual precip total and when does it fall? |
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| Oh and that ash, if it had remained healthy, would have at least doubled in size with time and not remained the cutesy teenager you have been enjoying for a few years ;) |
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| We are in a dry part of Colorado (25 miles south of metro Denver). Average precipitation is a couple of inches (high) and average one inch or less per month. This tree is 100% northern exposure. During the winter, we are the last home on the block still with snow. We haven't gotten much rain lately and snow was lighter this year. During the spring/summer months, I do water the lawn two to three times/week for about 40 minutes total (different angles, two zones). I have a couple of Chanticleer Pear trees in my backyard I love but they are too narrow of a tree (great for the back fence). We also have a plumb tree in the back, which I like but it's small for this space and not the same time of umbrella coverage I'd like. Last year we also planted a Coralburst Crabapple, which also might do well in the front. Is this an option? We put the Crabapple in the back for the same type of umbrella coverage (it's a baby tree still). We just like shade in the front to sit on the grass. (we're not really that young so I would like something to mature or close enough quickly to enjoy it) ;) |
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| Well, I don't know much at all about very dry cold tolerant trees so I will have to defer to the pros. If you have had success with a crabapple, there are MANY more to choose from if you want one in the front. Also, the eastern redbud cultivars are smallish and put on about 2' a year here. They are drought tolerant and hardy to zone 4. There may be many west coast natives that do well in your situation that I am unaware of. Honestly, it is hard to find fast growing trees that remain fast growing with 12" of rain a year. I read you do not like spruce. Are all the other conifers a no go, too? Some drought tolerant pines or cedars may be a good choice for you. |
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| No to all conifers. We have a couple of Dwarf Albert Spruces on the side of our driveway in a small rock section but that's it. I don't like what conifers do to grass, as I've seen with other homes. I want to be able to sit under the tree with the dogs, if that makes sense. Don't know about the success of our crabapple as we just planted it last fall and it's still a baby. The plum is doing well as are the pear trees. |
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