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Mon, May 28, 12 at 17:03
| I am in Georgia just south of the city of macon and i am looking for a fast or very fast growing big shade tree for my dogs. the soil we have here is rock hard almost like brick. I would also like but not required for it to be pretty to look at or good smell and attract humming birds and squirrel. The tree will be planted close to the house but not touching even when full grown |
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| i am considering the tulip tree but open to just about any |
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| Tuliptree would have been my first choice, so there you go! Another choice might be a Scarlett Oak (Quercus coccinea). |
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| Catalpa perhaps? Catalpa bignonioides |
Here is a link that might be useful: Catalpa
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| If I had just moved to Georgia and needed a shade tree I would plant a Live oak, second choice would be Shumard oak. Unless oaks are dying from something there, if that's the case eastern Sycamore. |
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| unfortunately oaks appear to be dying here in large numbers and so are sycamores. The catalpa i am very familar with my dad fishes with the worms from it but it is to invasive and I would go with an empress tree over it |
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- Posted by ken_adrian z5 (My Page) on Tue, May 29, 12 at 16:29
| i hope its obvious .. that it will have to be protected from the dogs until big enough ... and the real key to success .. is PLANTING IN THE PROPER SEASON ... and i doubt that is june in GA ... and there are tricks to planting in clay .. or hardpan ... and that includes planting high .... and that is all covered at the link .. good luck ken |
Here is a link that might be useful: link
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| Catalpa is not invasive in the way the term invasive is meant to be used. While Empress Trees are invasive as the term is meant to be used. Despite appearances, they aren't closely related. Both Catalpa species are listed in Georgia, though it is uncertain what their original range was, as they were widely dispersed by Native American Indians before the arrival of Europeans. If you don't like them, that's fine, but they do fit the criteria you asked for, are very tough, and are native to the SE U.S.. Arktrees |
Here is a link that might be useful: Catalpa species in the search area
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- Posted by mackel_in_dfw (My Page) on Tue, May 29, 12 at 17:52
| Woody legumes Mackel |
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| Madrones are nice looking trees, I don't know how fast they grow. |
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| Madrones grow slowly from all the reports I have seen, and require SUPERB drainage. I looked into them at one time and decided they belonged where they grow and nowhere else. Arktrees |
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| Pecan. Proven to excel in your area. Fast growing, long-lived. But, won't provide any pleasing aroma, showy flowers, or attraction for hummingbirds. I'll also agree with arktrees on the caltalpa. Had one back at the homeplace in UCLA(upper corner of lower Alabama) that I planted to shade the dogpen(and provide a source of fishbait - those 'catalpa worms'(sphynx moth caterpillars) are GREAT!). |
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| Natchez crepe mytrle (or your favorite large variety) grows fast easy to prune to desired behavior drought tolerant (you need that around Macon eh?) handles wind bursts well, common in southern t storms then move out from there and plant the appropriate, long term, high value hard wood shade tree. the crepe gives you quick fix, the other gives you out year value (possted similar before on thread, didn't show) |
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| the pecan we have all over here but the tree does not stand up well to storms and it is common to see huge branches that have fallen during a storm. I already have one crepe mytrle in the front yard so looking for a different tree. The ground here is as hard as a brick because of the clay we have here but when it rains water stands on the ground for a couple of days before soaking in |
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| hey wcg, I want you to open up this link and read about 'Princeton' elms. I've gotten them from sharptoptrees and found the quality to be excellent. The last time I spoke to them they said they had 70,000 elms. The containerized ones can be planted anytime but they will have to be well staked. They are in Georgia. ps, if they will not sell to you ask for a vendor near you. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Sharp Top Tree Nursery
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