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Scarlet or black oak?

Posted by poaky1 6 Pa (My Page) on
Wed, May 23, 12 at 22:16

Photobucket It is thick leaved


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Photobucket Here is the tree to show it's form. I love how the branches spread out straight out from the tree.


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  • Posted by jqpublic 7b/8a Wake County NC (My Page) on
    Wed, May 23, 12 at 22:20

Looks like Black Oak to me. A picture the whole tree and bark would be beneficial. Check out the link. The first pic is very similar to the picture you posted...your pic just has a newly sprouted leaf that isn't fully mature.

Here is a link that might be useful: Quercus velutina


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Photobucket Another pic for showing form. My tractor is in the shop, excuse my long grass.


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Tough to say.

Here are Q.velutina id photos from a tree id'd by author Guy Sternberg:

Quercus velutina leaves
Quercus velutina leaves

Quercus velutina buds
Quercus velutina buds

Dax


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RE: Scarlet or black oak?

  • Posted by beng z6b western MD (My Page) on
    Thu, May 24, 12 at 9:29

Typically black oak has the thicker leaves. One of the best foliage of the oaks -- shiny above & buff-brown underneath.


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It is not Quercus Rubra for sure, it's different enough from their soft leaves. I will look at the bark good later. It is only about 2 inch thick trunk and has real bark at the bottom, not the thin cover of young trees. It came from the woods so it could even be a natural hybrid.


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Probably Black. Scarlet has pretty reliable fall foliage so if you are willing to wait that long...


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Come to think of it, the fall foiage is not very showy, duh, I should've realized it's not scarlet just by that alone. The bark has what looks like orange color in the cracks and I think that means Q Velutina is a good guess from reading about the bark. The buds I can't check now of course. So I have a black oak. I kinda thought it was for a few years now. Thanks for helping me know for sure.


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  • Posted by jqpublic 7b/8a Wake County NC (My Page) on
    Sat, May 26, 12 at 22:15

I feel it's the easiest to identify black oaks in the fall. They yellow leaves really set off the dark trunk.

By soft leaves do you mean not fully formed leaves?


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By soft I mean that Quercus Rubra leaves are non-leathery. Also the sinuses of the leaves are not very deep at all. I can tell easily the leaves of NRO in my yard, they may change as the tree gets bigger due to it shading out some of it's leaves. All the NRO in my yard have the same shallow sinuses on their leaves, and thin texture, meaning more flimsy and soft ( non-leathery ) is the only word I can think of. The tree in question is sort of leathery-leaved even now, despite being pretty young in this season. I will try to get pics of the trunk, it may take a while because I get my brother to load them and have to hear him complain that I don't yet know how to do it myself, and grudgingly do it! It may take a week or 2, maybe my friend can show me how. My brother just clicks away til it's done.


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