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Blue Ash (Fraxinus quadrangulata)

jqpublic
13 years ago

Hi Folks,

So last fall I planted a 1-2' tall blue ash tree in my parents yard. We watered it well and it stayed nice and moist through the spring. But it is just taking forever to sprout mature leaves!!!

It's been opening slowly all spring since April Also, the green flowers are still on the tree and the leaves are just beginning to unfurl. I know they aren't native to this part of the US, but they grow down to Arkansas so I thought it would do ok here.

I have always found the blue ash interesting due to it's four-sided twigs, but I want it to be a happy tree too. They grow best on calcerous soils like those atop limestone (which I don't have). Should I amend the soil to make it more calcerous?

They say the trees grow well on problem sites so I didn't think it would have any trouble in my yard. As far as I can tell the tree is healthy, but it is just taking forever to sprout! Is patience still the best advice this far into the season?

It gets full sun in our backyard lawn. We have regular nc red clay. The tree was mulched with about a 2-3' ring all around the tree. My parents hire a lawn crew to do the lawn and I know they sprayed around the many saplings to kill weeds in March/April. Could this be the problem?

Any help would be great. thanks!

Comments (16)

  • musicalperson
    13 years ago

    It sounds like it needs more time to get established.
    I'm not sure what you mean by "sprout mature leaves".
    Are you saying the tree hasn't leafed out or that the leaves haven't matured?
    General rule of thumb (small trees like yours establish faster)
    year 1: SLEEP
    year 2: CREEP
    year 3: LEAP

    Regarding the stuff the lawn service sprayed, if they sprayed in march and april and the tree is now dead or foliage has died or something like that then I'd suspect something there. Otherwise it sounds like you need to wait a little longer and that blue ash will take off like a weed.

  • Dan _Staley (5b Sunset 2B AHS 7)
    13 years ago

    Patience.

    Dan

  • jqpublic
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    Hi. There are leaves there. But they just started emerging. We've been in the low to mid nineties for the past few days and after about Jun 20th it will stay above 90 til the end of August. I know y'all are further North, but down here it seems almost too late for a tree to be working on it's first leaves still. I'm surprised that the leaves aren't fully mature. Again the flowers are still green and the leaves are very tiny. But not tiny in a sick way...tiny in an unfurling way. I hope this makes sense. I'll take pics the next time I'm out at the parents place.

  • musicalperson
    13 years ago

    Sometimes that happens with mail order trees that are forced to stay dormant. I'm assuming you bought these mail order.
    Anyhoo, I've personally seen blue ash growing like a weed in 90 degree temps in compacted clay soil in your region. So you needn't worry about that. The tree needs to get established which they normally do pretty darn easily. Ask anyone who's put a potted blue ash on top of the ground for a month or two. They root right through the doggone container.

  • jqpublic
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    Wonderful advice everyone! Thanks for easing my concerns. I'll still post a pick soon to update y'all!

  • jqpublic
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    Here are some pics...

    It's grown an inch since April 1st :(

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  • musicalperson
    13 years ago

    well the good news is you got it from FF so if it doesn't snap out of it, you can ask them for a replacement.

  • krycek1984
    13 years ago

    It's so weird to me to see someone actually planting ash!!! Up here I don't even think you can buy them any more because of the emerald ash borer. The City of Cleveland just ripped out a ton of ashes, either pre-emptively or to quarantine.

  • jqpublic
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    I've always found the blue ash interesting and for some reason the borer doesn't really come this far south...at least not yet. I guess because ash isn't all that common in the forest and we get so darn hot here too.

  • jqpublic
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    Oh well, just wanted to update you guys to say that it only took a few days around 99 degrees for the tree to start growing quicker. Crisis averted!

  • jqpublic
    Original Author
    11 years ago

    So here we are almost 2 and a half years since I planted the Blue Ash, and it's doing amazingly well! This is it's 3rd spring and it has grown probably a good 8 inches! The growth is so lush too. The first year it barely did anything, the second year it maybe grew 3", and this year it looks great!

    The first two years I was seeing a lot of damage to the leaves, and I don't see any sign of that this year. I'll post pics soon!

  • jqpublic
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    The tree is almost 6 feet tall now!

    {{gwi:366686}}

    This post was edited by jqpublic on Mon, May 13, 13 at 1:03

  • bgbtoronto
    10 years ago

    Hopefully the Emerald Ash Borer doesn't make it to where you live. We have had Ash trees in our Toronto, Canada neighborhood ravaged by this destructive bug! Streets of Ash trees that almost covered the road have been cut down. Leaving a barren street with a new development like feel...

  • bgbtoronto
    10 years ago

    Here is a before picture - you can see that the trees were quite sick. This was taken in midsummer.

  • bgbtoronto
    10 years ago

    Here is an after picture taken last month - How devastating!

    IMO, the lesson of this story is to plant more than one specie of tree per street. Mix it up! Another lesson would be not to rely on the city tree as the only tree in your front yard. Plant another tree or two or three in your front yard. Then it wouldn't look so barren when a devastation like this occurs. ( Don't know how to rotate the picture).

    This post was edited by bgbtoronto on Mon, May 13, 13 at 22:46

  • jqpublic
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    Thanks everyone for the heads up! I am aware of EAB, but thought I may test my luck with ashes, as they aren't as common here as other trees. I'd say 85% of the trees here are pines, oaks, maples, tulip poplars, hickories, and sweet gums. The other 10% are everything else, including ash.

    I planted one white ash in my backyard and one blue ash in my back yard. In 2 years the white ash has gone from 2' to 10'. That thing grows like crazy! The blue ash has been slower, only recently putting on growth in feet rather than inches....6' in 5 years.

    Also, the natural range of EAB in Asia seems to be in more northern climes, so I'm holding out hope that it won't come this far south due to the comparable rarity of ash trees down here. I would understand if it EAB made it into the NC mountains though, as they average zone 5-6ish weather out there.