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| My husband picked up a couple of trees today at Trees For Houston's 3 day sale, the lady told him these two were water oaks, is that what they are? The two leaf pictures are leaves on the same tree:
Thatnks for your assistance. :) |
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| The link below is to a google image search for "water oak". I would say that the foliage on your new trees is certainly consistent with the images on the search results page. It appears that the foliage on this tree is kind of variable -- juvenile foliage ranges from looking almost like a live oak to that more typical of oak foliage with lobes, and all on the same tree at the same time. The mature foliage is somewhat different yet. Pretty looking trees, it should be fun to watch them grow. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Water Oak images on Google
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- Posted by ghostlyvision 8b/9a (My Page) on Sat, Jun 9, 12 at 13:35
| Alrighty then, thanks Denninmi, that's what was confusing me, the tree selector showed the bell shaped leaves and these two have the lobed and elongated, I guess when they get older they'll be bell-shaped - and big! The extra shade will be wonderful. :) |
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- Posted by ken_adrian z5 (My Page) on Sat, Jun 9, 12 at 17:12
| those are very big trees .. in relatively small pots.. i hope you will be planting them.. IN THE NEXT PROPER PLANTING SEASON... and not the heat of summer ... ken |
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- Posted by ghostlyvision 8b/9a (My Page) on Sat, Jun 9, 12 at 20:38
| Yeah, Ken, I won't be planting them until Fall, was thinking of getting wider pots to put them in so their roots can spread out before they get in the ground. Where they are right now gets dappled sunlight half of the day so will probably keep them in that general location while they're still in pots. |
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| Laurel Oaks are (very) mistakenly called "water oaks", in the semi-tropical parts of the country where they are native. Why...I do not know. I feel pretty certain that your trees are Quercus laurifolia, Laurel oak. They will not develop the typical duck foot shape of the Water Oak (Quercus nigra), seen in the link posted earlier. Yours will always be rather narrow and pointed....not totally unlike a Live Oak though the tree form will be very different. The other foliage with the odd shape is something that is VERY common with the evergreen oaks. Young ones can be a real pain to identify. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Quercus laurifolia
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| Having only heard about laural oaks on the web and in literature (ie- I am very unfamiliar with them), I have to agree with rhizo but the leaves on the right half of the first picture do strongly resemble an immature water oak leaves. There appears to be some structure issues with Y's on the bottom half of the trunks. John |
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- Posted by ghostlyvision 8b/9a (My Page) on Sun, Jun 10, 12 at 13:29
| Thanks Rhizo and John, I guess if mature leaves don't develop the bell shape than they're laurel oaks? Prune the lower portions late this Fall, John? I really dislike live oak leaves (we have one and the neighbor has two that lean over our fence), leaves cover the ground in Spring and they're a pain to sweep or rake. Hub meant well but ugh. lol |
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| As far as pruning your trees, I would leave as is for 1 growing season and then begin... oh now you had to ask me and I am blanking on the term... it has been all the rage on this forum lately... uhh I think it is called sub ordinate pruning. Begin to reduce the leader you reject and finish it off after a year or two. It would be a good idea to post a good view of the branches to be pruned before you begin. Those kind topics makes for a good instructional teaching tool and us noobs can sit back lurk while the pros flaunt their wisdom. =) John |
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| AAAAACCCCCKKKKKKKKKK.......me, groaning and screaming and pulling my hair. No responsible party should be selling woody stock without a binomial name attached to the tag. One should not ever, ever have to identify a tree they're purchasing after the fact. Even charity sales of woody stock by arboretums and state entities must be inspected AND TAGGED with the proper name, even if it's just the one in common usage. I had a very expensive customer relation problem years ago. I grew uncommon groundcovers amoungst my offerings and had a customer base for them primarily through landscapers. One came back early on a morning when I wasn't around to do a major golf course on a distant job and identified what the facility wanted by common name. It was his responsibility, really, to get his order right and to make sure his customer knew what that common name would buy. I didn't wait on him, so the person who did filled his truck up with them. Guess what? He had to rip out his planting and replace them and you-know-what rolls uphill as well as down. I could have been hard-nosed, but felt sorry for him and wanted to keep him for a customer, so he got credited with a truck load of it, and had it replaced by what he did want. He lost money on the job because of the time and distance involved. I lost money on the job because I replaced his order. The end user was peeved because of the time element involved. Lose/lose all the way around. |
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- Posted by ghostlyvision 8b/9a (My Page) on Sun, Jun 10, 12 at 21:11
| That just sux Calliope, and I agree about the non-tagging, I usually ignore anything without a tag but hub will ask and trust what the seller tells him (usually). We were at a garden center today and saw a grouping of what looked like maroon-leafed Japanese maples, no tags, no sign, nothing, just the price (shockingly low at 19.99 and selling at half price of that), asked the check out guy what they were and he said 'Hibiscus', we asked him again if he was sure we were talking about the same plants because we'd never seen deep maroon j. maple leaf-like, no flower hibiscus but he assured us that's what they were. I should have bought one anyways but we were just too dubious at his identification of them to chance it (and we already had a cart of other plants). Thanks John, I'll post pics of the trees closer up before I do anything to them so the pros can give their advice and others can learn as well. :) |
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| Have you had a chance to look up all of the red/maroon maple leafed hibiscus to see if that's what they were selling? |
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- Posted by ghostlyvision 8b/9a (My Page) on Mon, Jun 11, 12 at 14:28
| Huh, no, I haven't, maybe that's what they were. :o |
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