The first is a stick caterpillar -- just doing its thing, pretending to be a stick. ("Please ignore me: I'm a twig. Just lying here defying gravity on the underside of this leaf. Not eating it: oh no! I'm innocent; I'm harmless. You can safely turn the leaf right-side up and leave me here.")

Sorry: I can't tell you the exact species.

"stick caterpillars" are in the geometridae (inchworm) family, not sure on the species.

I believe the second is a copper underwing.

Hello there. My mum's tree is being eaten alive. I was wondering if anyone knows the type of caterpillar, see photo, and maybe a cure? Not sure exactly the tree, might b an oak or similar. This is in Holland too ð It would be much appreciated

sailing.. you should start your own post

and you need to start by IDing the tree ... things such as this can be very tree specific ...

and the bug peeps in the garden clinic forum... might help with the bug ...

ken

Thanks ken_adrian that's very helpful I'll pop over to the garden clinic forum ðÂÂÂðÂÂÂ