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Tree damage

Posted by bwilden 6 NJ (My Page) on
Sun, Jul 1, 12 at 12:05

Tree was hit by a car on Friday night. Moderate damage as far as I can tell, neighbors tree hit head on and snapped just above impact point. Anyone have odds on whether this tree will survive? Besides bark, tree has a deep gouge near bottom of injury, inch or so deep. I have a picture but can't seem to add it to this message.


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Yep, a picture will be necessary for even a decent guess.

One of the easiest ways to provide your photo to be embedded into a post is to upload it onto an image hosting site such as Photobucket, Flickr, etc. That should be pretty straight forward, and the individual sites will give instructions on how to get your photos uploaded to their site when you sign up.

Once your picture has been uploaded, find its image location address (URL) by right clicking on the image and copying the image location. The URL will look something like:

http://somepicturesite.com/yourpicture.jpg.

Some sites may even provide the appropriate HTML code in a text box below the photo for your convenience. It will be the one that begins with <a href=... (This code looks different than the code below, because it will actually produce a picture link instead of just a picture.)

Let's say, as an example, that the address of the picture you want to post is http://somepicturesite.com/yourpicture.jpg

To embed the picture into a post, use the command:
<img src="http://somepicturesite.com/yourpicture.jpg">
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If your picture is too large to fit nicely into the text page, you can add a width attribute.

The command with the width attribute would look something like:
<img src="http://somepicturesite.com/yourpicture.jpg" width=600>
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Note that I had to use special characters to get the commands above to show up here without turning into pictures, but you can use them as shown (but with the correct image web address).


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Or you can use the 'Image file to upload' button just below the words 'Post a Follow-Up' and upload a photo straight from your computer.


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Here is the picture. My iPad would not allow upload so I went to computer. Easy as pie there!


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Here is a close up of the bottom, most damaged area. My dilemma is an insurance claim on the driver's insurance. If I wait it out, which is what I plan to do, I may miss chance at having his insurance pay for removal and new tree. It is a 10 year old cherry tree right in front of my bay window of the front of my house, so it is an important area. Thanks for looking all!!!!


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IMHO, the tree is NOT going to survive lone term. WAY too much damage for it to close before rot, borer's, and disease set in. Cherry's aren't generally long lived anyway due to having so many pests, and a wound like that just leaves the tree with NO defense.

I would also ask for more than removal. Since removal impacts the value you have for your properly, cub appeal, life style, and cost of replacement by a professional arborist. I know if a car took out one of my trees, I would be demanding one as large or larger to take it's place. Also you have to be concerned about HEALTH and survival of replacement. SOOOOOO many trees are poorly planted by "landscapers or landscape professional" it's disgusting. So you have to keep that in mind as well.

Arktrees


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There is hidden damage after an impact such as that, much like the internal injuries a human might have...causing severe problems down the road.


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"There is hidden damage after an impact such as that, much like the internal injuries a human might have...causing severe problems down the road."

Unlike the delicate casing of skin protecting vulnerable internal organs, trees (in this case, dicots) have all the valuable stuff on the outside....the damage you see is the damage you got.


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I disagree politely.

The structural wood is no doubt no better off for the collision and probably worse off.

I doubt any root damage was done but it is not like they are more sound now either.

The baseball bat which has hit 1,000 balls is not stronger than the one which just made it through product testing.

Plus humans have very little idea what to seal an open wound like that with. FWIW my neighbor uses spray on undercoating. I just bug spray every time I see an ant enter a pruning cut.


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No sprays, lotions or snake oil applications. I agree that this tree's future has been shortened a great deal by this damage. It also appears to be planted too deeply-a very common issue. Even without the wayward car, I don' think this tree had a bright future.

+oM


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if i qere to parse all the collective wisdom of these forums into a thimble, it would basically be that no tree planted by squirrel or babboon in the last twenty years has a banana's chance of surviving. and if a human planted it, the chances of survival are even less.

i got a word for that. it's not polite.

of course, what do i know. according to that piece of paper on my i love me wall, i should know something. according to everyone else, a blind baboon could do better. especially if it speaks spanish.

as to the survivabiliy of the tree...i know of no particular reason that the tree can't life out a reasonable lifespan. smooth cuts, sharp blade, trim off the splintered wood and cut back the.bark to where it adheres to the trunk. think a football shaped outline.

can it survive? it's a prunus. if you want longevity, wrong species, wrong family. expect suckers below the wound. don't wrap it, don't cover it.


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I like Arktrees' approach above. The tree is probably not worth trying to save (given its type and given the damage), but don't let the insurance people know it! As Ark suggests, I'd approach this as if I fully expected a replacement tree of the same size and planted by a true professional. You may not get all that, but if you don't start from a strong position, you may get next to nothing.

It's like when my truck got hit a few years ago...the other guy's insurance guy called and started talking about how little I would get. I told him I really wanted to discuss it with him, but that my neck was hurting too much right then to have the conversation. That seemed to be a good turning point in our dealings, and my truck was fixed well. (-:


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Thanks for the input everyone. I certainly appreciate your time. I will see what my options are, figuring that full removal of this tree, roots and all, will be difficult to plant a tree in same location.


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