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Oak tree ID: Is this a swamp white oak?

Posted by acer 6b western NC (My Page) on
Wed, Jul 31, 13 at 18:31

I'm at Myrtle Beach, SC looking at this baby oak. Could it be a Quercus bicolor -swamp white oak?
I may take a chance on digging it out of this flower bed where it'll eventually be yanked anyway. I can't come back in winter.


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RE: Oak tree ID: Is this a swamp white oak?

if i had to do it ....

i would get a pot.. and some cactus mix.. and transplant it ASAP ... and get it accustomed to the pot.. before the long drive home.

and then i would put the pot in full shade and not plant it in mother earth.. until the leaves fall off ...

trees do not like regular high peat media... it can hold too much water .. they like a drink and near total drainage ... even to be dry for a day or two .. before wetting again ....

but in a small pot.. dont let the pot get too hot.. nor too dry.. while holding the plant over ... even if you have to stick the pot in the soil.. to temper august heat ...

but dont shock it twice.. by digging it up.. then transporting it .. and then immediately replanting it... wait.. thats three shocks...

and on the drive home.. no stopping for 12 afternoon drinks.. and leaving your pet tree in a closed car on the parking lot... crikey.. traveling with plants is worse than kids.. you just cant leave them in a closed locked car ... lol ...

make sense...??

someone else can ID it for you .. but why not practice regardless...

good luck.. let us know how it works out ...

ken

ps: i was told .. long ago.. its hard to ID oak babes.. as mature leaf form is better for ID ....but it sure does look like a swamper to my untrained eye ....


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RE: Oak tree ID: Is this a swamp white oak?

In SC it's more likely a Swamp Chestnut Oak, Quercus michauxii, which is also a fine tree and would do well in zone 6b NC.


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RE: Oak tree ID: Is this a swamp white oak?

Not bicolor or michauxii; it's a seedling of one of the red oak species - spines on the tips of lobes.


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RE: Oak tree ID: Is this a swamp white oak?

  • Posted by beng z6 western MD (My Page) on
    Thu, Aug 1, 13 at 8:47

Acer, tiny seedling oaks can be very hard to ID.

Something in sandy, coastal SC might be bear or blackjack oak.


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RE: Oak tree ID: Is this a swamp white oak?

Agree with beng - seedlings are often very difficult to ID, as leaf shape is often nothing at all like that of the mature tree.
My guess would be Q.falcata or Q.pagoda - but at the bottom of the photo, it almost looks like there's also a seedling of Q.nigra growing in close proximity.

Survival would be iffy, at best, but I've uprooted some 1st-year seedlings this late and had 'em make it; they may lose all their leaves, and may even die back to the root collar, but often resprout - they're pretty much programmed to survive!. If you can manage to sneak it out without disturbing its roots too much, you might be able to get away with it.

This post was edited by lucky_p on Thu, Aug 1, 13 at 12:16


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RE: Oak tree ID: Is this a swamp white oak?

Q. nigra


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RE: Oak tree ID: Is this a swamp white oak?

You know, sal, I think you're right. I'm so far removed from The South, where Q.nigra seedlings pop up everywhere, I'd forgotten how 'lobed' seedling leaves on those suckers can be. Certainly those in the lower right corner are unmistably, IMO, Q.nigra.


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