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options on privacy border needed

Posted by mopower440 tn (My Page) on
Sat, Jul 28, 12 at 19:15

Im in middle TN. (zone 7) and want to plant a row of trees between neighbors house and mine. was going to use leyland cypress or green giant but we have bagworm issues bad out here.Important things are:

1.) will be in full sun.
2.) must be fairly fast growing
3.) must be bagworm resistant
need some ideas. Is white pine an option?
thanks


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RE: options on privacy border needed

How much space and what is your soil like? Eastern White Pines might do, but you should plan on branches at least 10 ft. from the trunk (20ft circle). There are skinny ones out there, but you will pay extra. Also, they need well draining soil.

I'm assuming you want an evergreen? Or do trees that keep their leaves on late and grow low work? Something like a Lilac?


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soil is hard clay (TN.), will bagworms mess with the pine trees like they do the leyland cypress?


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Let's keep working on this. I love white pines of course, but somehow, I don't think they're your best choice in this case, both in terms of liking your soil (They probably won't) and in terms of providing the right kind of screening. White pine are not the best when it comes to retaining their lower branches.

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a row of anything is soil conservation .. and you ought to have state programs for such.. and they ought to provide a wealth of info specific to your location.. try calling your COUNTY extension office and finding out..

second.. NEVER plant all of one thing.. stuff happens.. so we spread the odds ...

and finally .. do not set yourself in a box.. sitting out there at the property line.. a couple well placed trees/conifers/shrubs .. somewhere between the house.. and the neighbor ... can block the important windows much easier that 100 plants at the property line..

same with a deck/patio ... build a secret garden around the patio .. to avoid prying eyes ...

with clay soil.. its all about how you plant them.. not necessarily about what you plant ... see link ...

ken

Here is a link that might be useful: and he is even in TN ...


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Are you looking for year round privacy?

I planted 2 rows of European Hornbeam Fastigiatas for privacy. They've grown 2-3 ft this year since being planted 5 months ago...Of course they are deciduous so in the winter they're leaves will drop They have such tight full branching though that I think even when they're full grown that even in the winter they'll provide privacy.

I definitely see Ken's point of watching out about planting all of one thing. I did, however, plant 75 feet of one one thing. lol I LOVE the look, and the neighbors around me keep complimenting me on the trees and how beautiful they look. I've had people visiting the lake on the weekends walk over and ask what these trees are, because no one around here has them. I'm as proud as can be. :) They are disease free for the most part.


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Oh and my trees can handle clay soil; forgot to mention that. The area I planted them in is Full Sun. They seem to bask in it. lol


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will those hornbeams do well here in zone 7 where its very hot and humid? are they bagworm resistant?


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Yep! They grow in zones 4-8. And I want to ammend my anser about diseases, they are disease free from what I read. They grow so easy! And the leaves are really, really pretty.

I planted them for privacy from my 2 neighbors. My one neighbor commented that they are growing at a faster rate than his maple. lol At this rate they will catch up with his maple, that he planted 4 years ago, by next year. It's pretty funny. Saturday afternoon he asked me for the 3rd time what kind of trees they are, he keeps forgetting the name, so I went inside and wrote the full name of the tree down on a piece of notebook paper and brought it out to him. lol I don't know if he has plans to plant them or if someone else he knows does.

Oh, and I bought the trees online from Forest Farm. I don't work for them or have anything to do with them, but I did have a very good experience ordering from them.


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oh, and I've never heard of a bag worm. I'm sorry, that is a little out of my league.

However, nothing I have ever read said anything about bag worms with regards to these trees.


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I have not had to deal with bagworms, so I Googled them. They appear to prefer evergreens, including pines, and a couple of deciduous trees:"Deciduous host plants include black locust (Robinia pseudoacacia), honeylocust (Gleditsia triacanthos), sweetgum (Liquidambar styraciflua) and sycamore (Platanus occidentalis)" (source at link below).

I'd say that white pine is out for you if you've got a severe infestation in your area. There are pesticides for the bagworms, and there is always pulling the bags off the trees, which gets a big yuck from me, and would be problematic on anything with some real size on it.

No mention of hornbeams, one way or 'tother.

Here is a link that might be useful: information on bagworms in PA


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