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Wed, Aug 17, 11 at 0:24
| O.k. sorry about this but I haven't figured out a way to get pictures on here yet. I'll keep trying but in the meantime I wanted to see if someone could answer my question without the picture.
My mimosa started wilting in about July and hasn't snapped out of it. I thought maybe we were giving it too much water (we watered it daily) but then I started reading about mimosa wilt. Is it possible for a mimosa to wilt due to too much heat and too much water or is it most likely the dreaded fungus?
It's only lost 2 leaves the rest are just wilted. I looked at pictures on the internet of mimosa wilt and none of them look like my tree.
Thanks for any advice and I'll try to figure out how to get a pic uploaded.
Jeff |
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RE: Mimosa wilt or just wilting?
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| Springpatch, Daily is too often. Water, let it dry, test soil by sticking your finger in, water again. Have you had the hot dry summer Missouri has? Is your tree a new transplant or has it been in the ground awhile? If I understand mimosa use correctly Mimosa are for fast growth and have relatively short life spans. Secret in zone six is they will seed prolifically and you will have a new one or two or a hundred then the first one dies. They are displacing redbuds and our native dogwoods along I-44 on the way to the Ozarks. A shame they seed so aggressively, one of the few trees which flowers later in the summer. The other day at the St Louis Zoo I even noticed they have a chocolate one, something I had only seen before at a botanical garden in KC. Very unique. It was done flowering though. Up where you are is Mimosa invasive? |
RE: Mimosa wilt or just wilting?
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| I'm in Springfield IL not far from STL. I've noticed that they produce offspring here sometimes but rarely on the level that I've seen them in Branson or in Tennessee. I was desperate to get a hardy zone 5b mimosa last year so I saw some growing in a guys yard and knocked on his door to ask if he'd mind giving me some seeds. He graciously allowed me to come in his yard and dig up as many seedlings as I wanted. You should have seen his yard! The mimosas were like grass. While I was digging I noticed that his yard was full of rocks mixed in with the soil. Then it struck me that this must be one of the major conditions that mimosas need. Have you ever tried to grow them from seed? To get them to sprout you have to scratch the seed otherwise they don't do anything. This must be why they are so invasive in MO and TN due to the rocky soils. Anyway, my mimosa started small this year and now has achieved a length of about 6 feet or more. I was really happy to see it progressing so fast but then it started wilting. It has some offshoots that aren't wilting but the main branch has very deformed leaves as you go about half way up. I'm really hoping that I just watered it too much. The heat here in Springfield was in the 90's for pretty much all of July. We just got back from Branson MO though and I only saw one mimosa that looked like mine. I definately saw alot of them along I-44. |
RE: Mimosa wilt or just wilting?
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Springpatch, Mimosa needs well drained soil. Overwatering it was a no no, they don't like wet feet. If it was just overwatering it, it should be fine if you don't water it for awhile. If it is the wilt, it will kill it fast and then you'll know. If you plant another one, and it was the wilt, do not plant it in the same spot. Pick another spot, loosen the ground real good all around where you are going to plant it with a shovel for good drainage, and don't water it every day. |
RE: Mimosa wilt or just wilting?
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| This link has a picture of the mimosa |
Here is a link that might be useful: mimosa
RE: Mimosa wilt or just wilting?
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| I don't see anything significantly wrong with that Mimosa. PS - Mimosa's don't need rocky soil. They do just fine in soil with no rocks at all. |
Double PS
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| That's really close to the house, but its probably already too big to move. You're gonna have to prune it to keep its branches away. |
RE: Mimosa wilt or just wilting?
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Thank you famartin, don't you think it's odd how the leaves wilted like that. Do you think it could be from too much water? It's probably about 3 ft.from the house. Hopefully it doesn't look odd after pruning it. |
RE: Mimosa wilt or just wilting?
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| They're not wilted, just deformed. Maybe an aphid or something was sucking on them during initial development. That's a guess. |
RE: Mimosa wilt or just wilting?
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| springpatch, the situation in that person's backyard is why the invasive pest species has become so hated. It thrives almost anywhere! They don't 'need' rocky soils in particular. To paraphrase famartin's comment, "...they do just fine in rocks with no soil at all." |
RE: Mimosa wilt or just wilting?
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RE: Mimosa wilt or just wilting?
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| True rhizo, I've seen them growing in rocks in Missouri and Tennessee. However, central Illinois is extremely rock deficient. To see a mimosa here is like a novelty. Whatever it is that makes them go loco in other parts isn't available for them here. Maybe it's the cold, but I've seen other mimosa seedlings survive our winters here. Either way I'm extatic that you don't think it's mimosa wilt famartin. I've been waiting for years to have my own yard so I can grow one of these. |
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| I sure wish mimosa wilt would come to my area. ; ) And no, they don't need rocks, they grow just fine in the sandy soil down here. |
RE: Mimosa wilt or just wilting?
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| Mimosa was initially considered invasive. They have flashy flowers and they jump onto disturbed land. Now, after a few years, local North American micro-organism start to love them. So, they tend to be a fragile, short-lived tree. In certain areas of the Carolina's, they have mostly wilted out. It is a good trend. On the other hand, I see Japanese Honeysuckles are going very strong persistently. |
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| They certainly aren't dying out down here near the FL panhandle, they're everywhere! |
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| Mimosa might not be as invasive in colder climates than mine but it is invasive here. Also note you will see more invasive species near metropolitan centers where humans plant them! If I go far far enough into the countryside I see little honeysuckle. In town it is in every tree line. |
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| This environmentally-damaging exotic pest plant (ie. invasive plant) has certainly gotten much worse in the East Tennessee area over the last few decades. It's classified as a "severe threat" by our state's invasive watchdog agency, and deservedly so. Albizia julibrissin (the plant we're actually talking about) has become a real problem in my area. |
RE: Mimosa wilt or just wilting?
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| The invasive pest here are Silver Maples. I've notice also that they seem mostly invasive in the city. If you go outside Springfield you see more Red buds and and Honey Locusts than Silver Maples. |
RE: Mimosa wilt or just wilting?
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| Springpatch, Silver Maples, Acer saccharinum, are native to all of Illinois, so they aren't invasive there (by definition). They may be aggressive or annoying, but that's a whole different thing. I can certainly understand someone saying they are aggressive, or annoying, after the thousands of them I have had to pull out flower beds. Native Status of Acer saccharinum: |
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| I think the focus should be to "save" the endangered "Native plants" which are verifiably endangered because of "invasive species". I believe most Native plants that are endangered because of human activities and foreign insects, NOT "invasive" plant species. Plants are different from animals. |
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| That's quite confusing, snasxs. Invasive plant are almost always the result of human activity and play a major role in loss of species. If we allow or encourage invasive non-native plants to displace natives, how would you suggest saving them?...in plant zoos? I suspect, as mentioned above, that the problem isn't nearly as bad in many places/climates as it is around here, but, around here, large areas are becoming nothing but monocultures of Albizia julibrissin. It's not unusual to see a site of 20 acres or more with no other trees present. This plant seems to be giving kudzu a run for its money. |
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| Sringpatch, your mimosa is just fine; I've seen some of them with that look to them before, nothing to worry about...definitely not mimosa wilt. |
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| Thank you davealju. I thought for sure it was mimosa wilt. But I looked all over the internet to find pictures that resembled mine and couldn't find any. Great to know that this one has a chance. Brandon7, I had know idea silver maples were so widespread in Tennessee. |
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| Springpatch,I also meant to mention that I don't think your mimosa would become a problem with offspring in your zone 5b, which is the zone I'm in here and I have 3 in the yard, one of which has bloomed for several years complete with pods....which don't have time to really fully mature and have viable seeds. And as far as it being too close to your house, you can always just trim off any branches that get too close to the house. |
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| For what it's worth, Springfield IL is solidly in zone 6 now and the city itself is probably in the upper end of 6b. I don't know how much problem seedlings would be there, but I'd bet there will be some viable seeds. Albizia julibrissin seemed to really take off here once we got into zone 7, but they are considered invasive in plenty of zone 6 areas. |
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| For whatever reason, they seem to be much less prominent here than in the past (both as cultivated specimens and along the roadside)--even as the local climate has gotten milder. |
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| @njoasis: I noticed that as well. I think the wilt has taken a big hit on Mimosas in New Jersey. They're certainly not all gone, but definitely seem less common than when I was a kid 20 years ago. |
RE: Mimosa wilt or just wilting?
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| In regards to seedlings, we took some seeds from some trees here in Springfield last year. I planted them this year and I've gotten about seven seedlings from them. All I had to do was scratch the outter coating of the seed on concrete pavement. |
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