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Magnolia virginiana and 'Porcelain Dove'--sparse and lanky?

Posted by ispahan 6a Chicago (My Page) on
Tue, Aug 21, 12 at 22:13

Hi all,

I have now seen quite a few Magnolia virginiana planted in my area. While I think the flowers and fragrance are beautiful, I am often surprised at the lanky, unattractive growth habits. Each plant looks like sticks with clumsy bunches of leaves at the tops. I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but this is not my idea of a graceful specimen tree by any stretch of the word.

Is this just an immature awkward stage that these trees will eventually grow out of, or are they realistically condemned to look sparse and shabby in colder zones?

On a similar note, does anyone here have firsthand experience with the hybrid 'Porcelain Dove'? The descriptions of its fragrance sound tempting, but the one picture I can find online showing its growth habit makes me concerned it might not be an attractive grower in my zone.


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RE: Magnolia virginiana and 'Porcelain Dove'--sparse and lanky?

in my viewing experience.. many of the very old plants.. were planted in proper sunlight.. back 20 or 30 years ago ...

and in the mean time.. those pesky trees have outgrown the understory plants so much.. that they become lanky ... and weird shaped ... reaching out from under the 50 foot maples.. etc ...

ken


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RE: Magnolia virginiana and 'Porcelain Dove'--sparse and lanky?

I have a M. virginiana. It is not deprived of sun, but it is leggy, like tripetala. This is just their growth pattern, they have multiple trunks and are noted for the lanky trunks with leaf swirls at the end. This means you get sparse shade from them and can grow other plants close by.

Since it is one of the few magnolias that likes wet ground and has good smelling flowers, it has those qualities to itself in the magnolia genus. As a rule, magnolia flowers on most species are ephemeral stinky things. M. v. is still my favorite magnolia, unless the sieboldii is blooming, or the 'Leonard Messel'.


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RE: Magnolia virginiana and 'Porcelain Dove'--sparse and lanky?

  • Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
    Sat, Aug 25, 12 at 14:15

Yes, quite a lightweight tree compared to some others particularly the bull bay (Magnolia grandiflora) which is like a bull in its build. So it's a matter of what you are looking for, the feminine aspect of the sweet bay (with its silvery leaf undersides that show when the leaves flutter in breezes, giving an effect like a shimmering school of fish) has its own, different charm.

Best to plant fully evergreen forms as the partially deciduous ones look indecisive in winter, being neither well furnished nor completely leafless. The best cultivars are all of the evergreen type also.


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