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| Okay, so there'a a Menard's near me that has 2 7' 20g? pots Dawn Redwoods (the greenish ones) on the discount aisle...soon they'll either be sold or sent to wherever unsold trees go.
I have a corner of my lot that is very open, and dry, with clayish and rocky soil. I'd like to put a large, fairly fast growing tree in it to eventually block winds. Within 20-25' are an asphalt driveway and roadway, no sidewalk. My concerns are:
Yes, Ken, I'm thinking BIG again! Thanks! vince |
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- Posted by ken_adrian z5 (My Page) on Wed, Aug 29, 12 at 8:20
| they are treated no different than any other tree in my dry sand ... i would say they TOLERATE wet.. more than your comment of LIKING wet ... as always.. such comments.. are about fully established trees ... and where they plant themselves.. we really walk a fine line.. due the the issues of transplant.. where we mess it all up ... and you understand.. a transplant that size.. can not dry out for about two years .... afterward.. once established .. they should be able to handle it... you know about planting in bad clay??? we have given you that planting guide .. yes???? my 12 year.. planted as a 6 footer.. is .. w/o a scale.. 1/3 to 1/2 less than the picture .... at 20 feet i wouldnt worry about any tree lifting pavement ... they go in the dumpster if you dont buy them ... they do lose their needles.. nudey in winter.. which is cool .. my problem with them .. well i only have one left.. is/was early sprouting.. in z5 MI.. followed by frost/freeze ... once a year.. they can cope .... but one bad year.. it happened twice .. so bud.. hard frost ... die-back of new growth .. rebud .. hard frost/freeze ... dead ... but i think it may have old historical problems hold the receipt.. go for it ... what do you have to lose ... ken |
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- Posted by gardener365 IL 5/6 (My Page) on Wed, Aug 29, 12 at 8:54
| I have (10) of them in the worst clay that are doing well. They've handled two years of drought w/o showing stress. Do as Ken says and keep yours watered. Mine were planted four years ago as little, little plugs, and watered the first two years...they've since been on their own. Dax |
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- Posted by toronado3800 Z6 St. Louis (My Page) on Wed, Aug 29, 12 at 23:30
| No coherent answer from me, but some observations. Does the grass stay green there all year w/o special watering? The location does not look like the side of a cliff so I bet it will be ok. Up north Metasequoia can be slowed down by freezes on soft foliage like Ken says. I hear they recover fully. My 20 something foot Metasequoia is not the most tolerant of heat and drought on my 1.2 acres. They grow FAST with ample sun and water. No need for a large difficult to handle transplant. Are you thinking about limbing up your dawn redwood or leaving the lower branches on? I have one going each way and have seen great looking examples of each. The big Missouri Botanical Garden trees can not be further than 20 foot from the pavement if that. My guess is you will be fine. |
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- Posted by wisconsitom 4/5 WI (My Page) on Wed, Aug 29, 12 at 23:36
| Yes, it's good to consider all possibilities, but twenty feet is enough for most any tree, for most any meaningful timeframe. +oM |
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| Thanks for all the great comments. I'm still thinking about it. I am particularly concerned about whether it would do well in the site. Not only is it clayey, rocky soil, but it is also dry, sunny, windswept and where the frosts are the most severe due to the open area and roadway. I was also thinking about it being a good windbreak, especially in winter. But, as Ken reminds me, it's a nudie tree in winter. So now I need to think about it some more. Hmmm. vince |
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- Posted by ken_adrian z5 (My Page) on Sat, Sep 1, 12 at 7:49
| you might be surprised how much of a windbreak.. even bare trees are ... ken |
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- Posted by wisconsitom 4/5 WI (My Page) on Sat, Sep 1, 12 at 11:40
| Absolutely^. Take a look at snowdrift formation downwind of a row of bare shrubs or trees, or snow fence for that matter. The idea is to slow the air currents down, not stop them abruptly. So at least in that regard, a bare DR would still provide significant wind modification. +oM |
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