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| What is the best and easiest way to Id different kinds of oak trees I have growing locally? |
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- Posted by greenlarry UK 8/9 (My Page) on Sat, Sep 29, 12 at 7:55
| I would hazard a guess and say leaf shape and acorn type. |
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| You want to have several leaves available to examine, not just one. And I guess greenlarry means acorn "shape, size and characteristics" rather than just type. For the acorn, you often need not just the acorn but also the cap. Twigs and bark can be helpful too but are not always necessary. |
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- Posted by strobiculate none (My Page) on Sat, Sep 29, 12 at 9:04
| My personal favorite methods is getting close enough and then throw darts. Leaf shape gets you started. Acorns get you closer. And you need the cap on the acorn, because some of the differences come down to how far the cap covers the acorn. But then you have natural variation within a species and the tendency of oaks to cross pollinate rather freely, as long as the growing range overlaps. So if you look for nice neat clear deliniations, you will go crazy. everybody's favorite author, Dirr, has decent line drawings of a fair number of species. Symonds is a decent author for general tree id. And every library has some kind of trees of whereever it is you live, be it eastetn north america, rocky mountains, british isles, or the alaskan archipelago. Get a couple books that have a format you can understand, grab a few leaves and acorns, and spend some quality time with words like auriculate, involucre, and my personal favorite, peduncle. |
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- Posted by toronado3800 Z6 St. Louis (My Page) on Sat, Sep 29, 12 at 9:41
| The way oaks are classified needs to change IMHO. Many are way too close physically and genetically to be different species. So do not feel bad if you have difficulty. To be blunt, look at the variation in humans and both my European ancestors and the Eskimo ancestors are obviously the same species. The difference in many oaks seems to be splitting hairs. It is more difficult than telling the difference between "british" humans and "sweedish" humans. |
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- Posted by ken_adrian z5 (My Page) on Sat, Sep 29, 12 at 10:46
| post pix here.. and let these guys argue about it.. ken |
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- Posted by greenlarry UK 8/9 (My Page) on Sat, Sep 29, 12 at 14:42
| Yout guys in the states are so lucky! Only one oak found here regularly, Q.robur. Occasionally one might find Turkey Oak or Holmes Oak, if youre lucky. |
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- Posted by lovestogrow 6 (My Page) on Sat, Sep 29, 12 at 17:07
| I understand that I need the acorn, with the caps, leaves, and pictures of the bark or trunk of the tree, but how do I go about identifying them? Where can I look or get help? |
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| If you're on the East side of the country, this guide might be useful. Understanding that all US oaks are grouped in either the "red oak" group or the "white oak" group, the first think I would do is use the leaf to identify which group it is in. That cuts your identification universe down almost in half. Look for bristle tips on the end of the lobes of the leaves; if tips exist, it is in the red oak group. Here's a good article from Ohio: http://fieldbioinohio.blogspot.com/2011_12_01_archive.html |
Here is a link that might be useful: field guide
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| Online you can go to the "Flora of North America" website. Under published volumes go to volume 3. Go to Fagaceae. Quercus is listed there with descriptions, drawings and distribution maps. |
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| Oaks of North America by Miller & Lamb. |
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