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| Had 2 dead ash trees removed from my parkway and want to replace ASAP w/ new shade trees. Here is the list of what the city allows. Need something thats plantable in fall, available in Illinois and medium to fast growing. Thanks for any suggestons
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- Posted by wisconsitom 4/5 WI (My Page) on Sat, Sep 8, 12 at 12:49
| Rel, this is my opinion, but many others will agree; It is a sort of "waste" to plant a low-growing ornamental species on the terrace where no overhead obstructions exist. Landscape design, as it relates to street tree planting, is most enhanced when tall-growing species are used, the one caveat noted, that of overhead wires, etc. Tall trees along the streetscape can turn what is arguably the most ugly aspect of modern urban areas-all those big, wide streets, into pleasant green corridors. So if there are no wires overhead, I would urge the use of one of the tall-growing types. Beyond that, you've got quite a list there. Many could perform well. I'd not plant hackberrys, elms, Autumn Blaze maples, and perhaps a couple others in fall. Spring would be better for those. Maybe one of the lindens. +oM |
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| Thanks for the info - and there are no overhead lines. Also, because our entire block was ash trees, it went from nicely tree lined to almost barren. |
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- Posted by strobiculate none (My Page) on Sat, Sep 8, 12 at 21:05
| So, basically, you can plant just about anything. I dare say the list of excuded species is shorter. As far as fall planting, yeah. As long as the tree was dug this year already or container, go for it. There are some trees I would not fall dig, mostly those that are hard to leaf out, such as black gum, certain oaks and dogwoods, and the like. If they were dug in the spring, just fine. As far as local availanility, that's your job. If only there were a type of business that specialized in plants. |
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- Posted by wisconsitom 4/5 WI (My Page) on Sat, Sep 8, 12 at 23:08
| Yes, an obvious oversight on my part-all the fall-planting caveats I mentioned were for bare-root. Container or B&B, none of that applies. You do indeed have quite free reign here. That's a good thing. +oM |
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| Is this a planting strip between the sidewalk and the street (if so how wide) or a 2 foot by 2 foot cut in the sidewalk next to the street? Is there a yard between the building and the sidewalk or all cement? I only ask because the less ground/more cement there is changes things like the soil pH and the availability of water. |
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- Posted by wisconsitom 4/5 WI (My Page) on Sun, Sep 9, 12 at 13:10
| Also rel, does your community not regulate such things? Where I live, we have a full-fledged Forestry department. Homeowners can plant their own stuff but it must be approved by the City Forester. I'd guess such is not the case where you live? In addition, this same department can and will usually beat any other price/value when it comes to doing said planting. When you're buying wholesale and planting perhaps 1000 to 1500 trees each year, you get very good at it! Savings follow. +oM |
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- Posted by gardengal48 PNW zone 8 (My Page) on Sun, Sep 9, 12 at 15:31
| I believe the OP already noted in the first post that these were trees the city allowed :-) There are a few I'd eliminate immediately: And FWIW, I think the canopy level of the Amelanchiers might be lower than desirable but that depends on the specific tree selection and training. IME, these do not "limb up" well :-) I'd also limit anything that tended to produce any fruit or excess litter (like seed pods, buckeyes, etc.) The elms, nyssa, oxydendrum and lindens are very tough trees and typically able to tolerate urban plantings, pollution, various soil conditions and drought well. I should think any of these would be good choices. I am not as familiar with some of the other choices. |
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| The area is beside street and a sidewalk. Its approx 20ft wide and previously supported 2 good size ash trees. At the local nursery today the best choices seemed to be: 1) swamp white oak. 2) red maple (brandywine) 3) Redmond linden |
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- Posted by wisconsitom 4/5 WI (My Page) on Sun, Sep 9, 12 at 22:16
| All three could work well. Do you happen to know if red maple likes the soil in your area? Some places, it gets chlorotic-yellow foliage-due to a too-high soil pH. If that were true in your area, I'd avoid it. I think swamp white oaks are hard to beat for this and many other applications. Redmond linden are decent trees too. Nice big leaves and deep red buds in winter. +oM |
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- Posted by strobiculate none (My Page) on Mon, Sep 10, 12 at 9:03
| My definition of the ideal parkway tree is one with high, upward arching branches. Elm or zelkova. I'm trying to think of a reason not to plant Aut. Bl. in the dall from bareroot...and I'm not coming up with one. And I put in a hundred or so each year, after the end of Sept, bareroot, sizes from 1 1/4" to 2". The only ones that don't live have some apparent reason...such as vehicular damage. local availability is your limiting factor. When it comes to a reason not to plant a given tree, they are abundant and mostly a bunch of horse hockey. Lindens are about as clean a tree as there is, but I know someone who broke a leg tripping on the dropped seeds...which are about the size of a pea. Every tree has something, but every tree also has advantages. Oaks have acorns, but they also have strong branches, long life, and a mature form usually referred to as majestic with minimal attention from people. |
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- Posted by gardener365 IL 5/6 (My Page) on Mon, Sep 10, 12 at 10:39
| I would caution that lindens are prime feeding grounds for Japanese beetles. My two picks are: Q.schumardii and Q.prinus. Dax |
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