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suggestions needed for small yard privacy tree/shrub

Yollies
9 years ago

We are in Atlanta, zone 7b, recently moved into a new house. The backyard measures at 16 yards length, 14 yard width level space. The back fence in the photo faces NE. Typical Georgia clay soil. The big dirt spot on the lawn is where we had a Maple removed. It was obviously too big for the yard with roots all over the place. We will have sod installed next week once the stump is ground up. The yard now gets a lot of sun. We do need some evergreen trees/shrubs planted in the open spots at the fence. The spaces are about 5yards wide each. The bush in the middle is a rose of Sharon, with a 6 ft Crabapple to the left and a 6ft Laurel? To the right. Any suggestions for smaller fast growing upright trees?

Comments (12)

  • Iris GW
    9 years ago

    Dax is right and you should accept that. If it grows fast then it gets big.

    What sort of height are you willing to live with?

    Wax myrtle is a nice evergreen tree and if you manage to get a female (you don't always know) then the birds will be very grateful.

    Are you wanting to put the new tree under those pines or on the other section of the fence?

  • Yollies
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Hi. Thanks for the input. Minimum 8ft to maximum 20ft height should be good. 8ft would be tall enough to block out the windows of the neighbors. I was planning on planting something to the left of the birdbath, where you can see the neighbor's corner windows. The lefthand corner of the yard, where you can see a small half moon retaining wall, is going to be a shade garden. Thinking of planting azaleas under the pines. I also need to plant something with height to the left of the pines where you can see the other neighbor's house corner. I have done some research on the wax myrtle and it seems like it would be a good choice for us.

    This post was edited by Yollies on Mon, Sep 8, 14 at 8:26

  • Iris GW
    9 years ago

    Ok the area to the left of the birdbath actually looks pretty shady. Is it sunny there at other times of the day and if so, is that morning sun or afternoon sun?

  • Yollies
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    The photo was taken at about 5pm. The area where the maple was taken out, now gets full sun from early morning until late afternoon. The area next to the birdbath gets morning sun with the far left corner getting the least sun. You can see the area of least sun when you look at the dead spot in the left hand corner of the lawn. The trees providing the shade are all deciduous.

    This post was edited by Yollies on Mon, Sep 8, 14 at 10:20

  • Iris GW
    9 years ago

    If that area doesn't get at least 5 hours of sun (morning sun does count), then I would withdraw my suggestion of wax myrtle as that needs more hours of sun to look full.

    Part-sun suggestions would be Florida anise (Illicium floridanum) and Carolina cherry laurel (Prunus caroliniana). Both are evergreen in your area.

    You can get those in 3 gallon containers at nurseries like Buck Jones (two locations outside the perimeter). You might be able to get them inside the perimeter but they would likely cost more. Certainly call first to verify availability.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Buck Jones nursery

  • Dave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7A
    9 years ago

    'Chindo' viburnums can take some shade and still grow quite dense.

    There are numerous hollies that might work there as well... 'East Palatka', Fosters, Scepter, x koehneana hybrids (get big though), Oakleaf, Spartan, Mary Nell, Yaupon, Blue Maid (slower), Some have spines; others don't.

    All of the above grow more conically so you would not be losing a lot of yard space.

    If you want something more umbrella-shaped -- maybe a loquat? Wax myrtle still might work with a bit of shearing to make more dense in shade.

    Have fun removing all those maple roots! Hopefully your crew will do that work for you. Maple roots can be quite extensive and shallow. They'll need to be removed before sod can be placed. But you'll be glad you removed the maple.

  • Yollies
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    I really like the wax myrtle, and think I'll try one just to the left of the pines. That area is in full sun for 8 hours or more a day. I love wildlife in the garden and do not mind berries. Also thinking of two Arborvitae Smaragd in the spaces between the three pine trees. I'll research the suggestions for more shade tolerant trees and shrubs.
    As far as the roots go, guess what we did all Sunday! We had good rain the day before and the ground was soaked. My husband used an axe and I used a saw. Severed thick roots as close to the trunk as we could and then pulled away from the trunk and snipped with loppers as we went. Most came up easily enough, but it was still backbreaking work. The stump grinder came yesterday and ground the stump and about a foot of root clumps right next to the stump. Saved us a lot of money by removing most roots ourselves.

  • Iris GW
    9 years ago

    It's fun to get more sun - you'll find you have so many more possibilities now. Enjoy!

  • Yollies
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    esh ga, thank you for suggesting Buck Jones. I see that the Woodstock branch is only a 20 minute drive for me. Planning on going there tomorrow and have a look at what is available. I will take a list of plants suggested in this thread and see what they look like "in the flesh".

  • Iris GW
    9 years ago

    I shop at that one myself. They are nice people and I'm sure you'll find some great plants.

  • eibren
    9 years ago

    Redbud trees like some shade and can grow fairly fast. They also cast heavy shade; little can grow under them, but they are excellent for weed suppression.

    Allegheny viburnums also grow fast and top out at around 18 feet; are rather rangey looking but good as part of a mixed planting. Great for privacy but grow in an angular fashion that makes pruning a bit iffy.