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| Sorry these pics didn't come in too well on the cell phone but none the less they should help.
Trying to decide which spot gets the Yellowwood or Bald Cypress. One spot is at a lower elevation so less wind and better soil moisture. The other one is at a higher elevation so more wind and less moisture. These will be lawn trees so they will only get a small ring of mulch during establishment. If neither tree seems to a be a good fit I can go another route, one of which may be no tree. Might have to click the photos to see my mark-ups. I don't see them showing up on GW.
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| The Bald Cypress at the lower elevation. |
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| The Bald Cypress at the lower elevation. |
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- Posted by formandfoliage 9b (Sunset zone 15) (My Page) on Sun, Sep 2, 12 at 10:15
| whaas my memory is that Cladrastis (yellow wood) doesn't like wind. I have two and they are both in protected areas (we have a lot of coastal wind here). I might have done that just so that the largish leaves don't get shredded, but I don't think that it is a super strong tree. I guess depends on how strong your wind is! My bald cypress, on the other hand, are planted in very windy spots, but are semi-submerged so never run out of water. |
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- Posted by ken_adrian z5 (My Page) on Sun, Sep 2, 12 at 11:15
| i swear.. and hour ago ... the photo shop parts werent there.. anyway.. let me get this straight.. you want to put large trees [the BC anyway].. between you and your plantings??? my BC .. 6 foot 10 years ago.. is now 35+ feet ... i think the upper one.. is way off to the side.. no real problem there.. especially if you are hiding a neighbor .. but for the winter nudey part ... but i dont like the placement of the lower one.. no matter what its size .. it will block the depth of your garden.. especially from the deck ... perhaps a pic from the deck out back across the plantings for reference??? BTW.. clicking your pix leads to the PB sign in page ... ken |
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- Posted by Dzitmoidonc 6 (My Page) on Sun, Sep 2, 12 at 12:01
| My 2 cents. I agree w/ken, but the C. kentuckea casts light shade, so the view won't necessarily be blocked. However, the Taxodium distichum definitely needs more moisture, and if you get in a drought situation, it will shed foliage. Don't know much about your climate (SE Wisc.), but unless the land is permanently underwater, you can't have too much wet for a Bald Cypress. And yes, they grow fast and will likely block everything around in the summer. The Taxodium here grew to be about 40ft tall in about 20 years. This is growing in a flood plain with 40+ inches of rain/yr and the roots inundated about 5 or 6X/yr. They have made nice specimens, lots of knees (can be a pain at first), with a circle of 25ft (or more) diameter under the branches. If you want the same effect without the knees and the requirement for water, (plus a more open growing pattern) maybe a Metasequoia glyptostroboides if they are hardy for your area? Or am I walking in to a movie that is half over and you already have the Taxodium? |
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| All, thanks for the feedback. The higher elevation is dryer just because its mostly run off and full sun from 6am to 8pm during the longest days. However there is a downspout nearby. So during rainy periods it gets a nice soaking. The view blocking is a bit of concern and thats the only reason I haven't planted yet. However if you are on the deck you have roughly a 150' wide view. At maturity the two trees would block 50'. There is roughly a 40' view on each side as well since I have trees positioned more parallel with the corner of the house. For whatever reason Bald Cypress is slow growing around here. The one that I have grew maybe 8" over two years. I remember my last neighbor had one and it was a mere 10' @ 12 years of age. Had a nice caliper trunk though. The main reason I want the trees is for more flipping shade. I loath the heat of full sun everywhere in my yard. I do have both trees and they are roughly 5' tall (the BC has a 1" caliper trunk already). I could give em a shot and if I don't like em I can take them down. Otherwise I need to find someone around here to take them off my hands before they are too difficult to transplant. I do have a species dawn redwood near the lot line and that things is very fast growing. I got at least 2' out of it the last two years. |
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| Yellowwood, higher drier. They really hate wet roots, so the downspout you mention concerns me. It needs to be away from that. Can the downspout be moved, or at least transported away from the proposed yellowwood location? Perhaps funneled around one of the beds away from the yellowwood? Even a small trench would be helpful. John, who hasn't posted here in a while, has had considerable problems with yellowwood getting wetter than their liking. Just my $0.02 |
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- Posted by ken_adrian z5 (My Page) on Mon, Sep 3, 12 at 19:53
| Bald Cypress is slow growing around here. The one that I have grew maybe 8" over two years. ==>> 8 feet in 2 years.. and you call that slow??? .. i bet you meant something else??? my BC are on mineral sand.. and havent been watered since the year planted.. IMHO.. they may tolerate moisture.. but i wouldnt call it requisite. .. after establishment of course .... ken |
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| Ark, definitely stays dry at that higher elevation. Extremely well drained especially with that 30 degree slope. Ken, after digging a bit more I've actually found out that they do better without constant moisture and actually grow well on dry sites. To your point they "tolerate" wet soils. BTW..." = inches / ' = feet
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| Here is the one at a higher elevation. The other one would be about 75' to the left. So perhaps in 25 years I'd still have a 50' view open in the middle.
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- Posted by jimbobfeeny none (My Page) on Tue, Sep 4, 12 at 20:22
| Have you thought about using Kentucky coffee-tree? Perhaps a yellow buckeye? Just a thought... |
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