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Flowering cherry in zone 10

Posted by yogert909 10 (My Page) on
Wed, Sep 29, 10 at 21:18

Hi, I am just getting started in gardening. My wife would very much like to have a flowering (yoshino) cherry tree in our yard but it is hardiness zone is 5-8. We live in zone 10 (los angeles).

Zone 10 seems to be a special climate zone without extreme temperatures, so I'm thinking that it might be ok. The nursery said to plant in morning sun but they can't guarantee it will survive. Does this sound accurate? Can anyone explain to me what about my zone might not be healthy to the cherry tree and maybe some tips on planting for success.

We would love to have this tree in our yard, but a half dead tree would just be depressing. Thanks for any help.


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RE: Flowering cherry in zone 10

Those zone numbers refer to cold hardiness not heat tolerance.
The problem with the higher zones is not necessarily heat but rather the absence of a long enough period of cold required for the trees to come out of dormancy.
I'd imagine you're going to need plenty of irrigation for these too. Or else they're going to drop most of their leaves and look kinda ugly.


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RE: Flowering cherry in zone 10

  • Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
    Wed, Sep 29, 10 at 22:51

There are spectacularly flowering plantings of 'Pink Cloud' in a park in San Diego. Maybe try that one instead. The cultivar originated from a seedling that came up in the Huntington Botanical Garden, near Los Angeles.

The tree is on the retail market because L.E. Cooke grows it, supplies it to garden centers etc.

Here is a link that might be useful: Pink_Cloud(CMYK).pdf


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Thanks for the suggestion bboy. We might consider but we are both allergic to the color pink;) We are really hoping for a white, non-weeping variety(akebono or yoshina) if it will thrive. Otherwise we might look into some purple ones that I see around LA and Pasadena

You gave me a good idea however and that's to go to the huntington gardens as whatever they have growing there hopefully should thrive in our yard. They also have a japanese garden there which is the inspiration for the cherry tree in the first place.

Thanks again,
Adam


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RE: Flowering cherry in zone 10

There's loads of flowering exotics that can be grown in socal. I'm not sure why you're so set on cherries. They've got their fair share of issues even for folks in the east.
And by the way our yoshino flowers pinkish.


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  • Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
    Thu, Sep 30, 10 at 12:03

Yes, you will not avoid pink with Prunus x yedoensis. Particularly with P. x yedoensis 'Akebono'. That's why I suggested 'Pink Cloud', it sounded like you wanted a pink kind.

Presumably at some point this will appear at outlets. Note the origin. Again, you do not completely avoid pink but maybe you'd like it anyway.

(Probably a re-naming of one that already had an older name, but I can't say what that might be - there is more than a few kinds of Japanese flowering cherries, some of them quite similar to one another. The small number currently prevalent in US commerce are the tip of an iceberg.)

Here is a link that might be useful: Angel's Blush® Flowering Cherry (Prunus serrulata 'Taizo') - Monrovia


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  • Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
    Thu, Sep 30, 10 at 12:20

It smells like carnations. Japanese apricot is the "Flowering Plum" of Shoji prints. I've read that in Japan there is a park with blocks of multiple specimens each of something like 500 kinds.

I have a red kind and a pink kind here, when in bloom the fragrance wafts for yards during mild conditions. The red one usually comes out in February.

Here is a link that might be useful: RosemaryClarke(CMYK).pdf


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RE: Flowering cherry in zone 10

Thanks everyone for your suggestions. It seems like the consensus is that the yoshino and akebono might not do too well in our climate. We'll definately have to consider the pink cloud or the flowering Apricot. It seems that these will be a darker pink but we might prefer these to having half dead trees in our yard.


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And find a nursery that stands behind their plants and offers a warranty rather than take an "you're on your own" approach.


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  • Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
    Fri, Oct 1, 10 at 0:20

The cherry page I linked to shows one that opens white, the Japanese apricot page I linked to shows a white variety that is supplied to garden centers. Other flowering Prunus are shown and described on the L.E. Cooke web site. You can also find tables of them, with Sunset climate zone indications in the Sunset WESTERN GARDEN BOOK.


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  • Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
    Fri, Oct 1, 10 at 11:55

That should have been "one that ages white".


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RE: Flowering cherry in zone 10

Hi there! I strongly believe with the right amount of care, a yoshino flowering cherry can grow, that is, thrive, in your zone. Be sure to inoculate the roots with mycorrhizal fungi before planting as this will help with improving the uptake of essential nutrients that are, well, essential, for the strengthening of the root system and the tree as a whole. *My recommendation: xtreme gardening Mykos Root Packs http://www.ebay.com/itm/Xtreme-Gardening-Mykos-10-gram-Root-Paks-20-ct-/150964902917?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2326359c05 or Green go Ultrafine Mycorrhizae http://www.thegreengro.com/ or both! By both I mean you could dip the roots in a liquid mycorrhizae inoculant and then rest the root packs upon the bare roots before covering them up. Also, after it's been planted, you might want to surround it with mulch--hardwood mulch. Also, another tip, you might want to plant it facing east. This way the yoshino will receive the morning sun and part of the afternoon sun, while receiving shade in the better part of the afternoon and evening hours. Bottom line: You must be patient with yoshinos. Like I said, I'm a strong believer that with the right amount of provisions, you can grow a yoshino in your zone, Los Angeles. Cheers! Best.


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