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Acer saccharum 'Monumentale'

Posted by ademink z5a-5b Indianapolis (My Page) on
Fri, Oct 7, 11 at 10:58

ARRIVING TODAY FROM GEE FARMS!!!

....not that I'm excited or anything. LOL


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RE: Acer saccharum 'Monumentale'

  • Posted by j0nd03 7 west/central AR (My Page) on
    Fri, Oct 7, 11 at 11:45

Cool! I am very interested in this cultivar myself. You MUST post pics when it gets going next year.

Congrats

John


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RE: Acer saccharum 'Monumentale'

  • Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
    Fri, Oct 7, 11 at 14:18

Confusion abounds in the history of this name, what, exactly your new tree will be like may be uncertain. For concise discussion look for a copy of Jacobson, North American Landscape Trees (1996, Ten Speed, Berkeley) at a library that carries such works. A college with a horticulture program would be a good place.


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RE: Acer saccharum 'Monumentale'

Forget waiting till next year, I want to see pics when it comes in, since I feel that I'm partly responsible. ;-)

Arktrees


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RE: Acer saccharum 'Monumentale'

  • Posted by ademink z5a-5b Indianapolis (My Page) on
    Fri, Oct 7, 11 at 17:57

LOL Ark...it's a deal! :) UPS still isn't here...frothing at the door. *drool drool*

bboy...please don't even tell me that. I hope I got what I meant to get...I don't want something else! EEK!

I've seen it called 'Monumentalis'...I've also seen others say that 'Newton's Sentry' is the same thing...but I don't think it is.

All I know is that it had better be like a pole w/ leaves or I'll be sad. Better not be like a sugar maple version of a 'Fat Albert'. hehe

PS why am I not getting email replies sent to me anymore from GW, despite checking the box?? weirdness.


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  • Posted by ademink z5a-5b Indianapolis (My Page) on
    Fri, Oct 7, 11 at 19:58

Dark out there now, Ark - will have to get a pic in the morning. It came in its pot....but in a pretty small, square box. It was literally in a "u" shape when it came out - admittedly I screamed. LOL

I gently straightened it up and staked it to something when I planted it. I think it is planted properly (Dan, don't start giving me numbers yet) but will verify when it's actually light tomorrow. I was like Helen Keller in the garden....


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  • Posted by j0nd03 7 west/central AR (My Page) on
    Fri, Oct 7, 11 at 22:50

It has leaves then?

For some reason I thought you were getting a dormant tree.

Yes yes, pics NAO!

John


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RE: Acer saccharum 'Monumentale'

ademink,
Congratulations. I hope it is exactly what you were expecting. Can't say I would be happy about them folding it over for shipping, but at least sugar maples are fairly limber when small. I would probable keep it staked for support through the first growing season. That way it will have time to lay down new wood for support. Our Princeton Sentry Ginkgo I had to keep staked for 3 years before it could reliably stand on it's own.

Arktrees


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RE: Acer saccharum 'Monumentale'

  • Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
    Sat, Oct 8, 11 at 11:07

The ginkgo was probably grafted on a root-bound stock. This is very common with trees and shrubs I see here - pretty much pandemic. Last year I threw out a 35 dollar grafted cypress because when I went to plant it I found the rootstock to be formed like human hair braided into a pony tail.


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bboy,
I appreciate your input, and the root stock could have been rootbound at some time, but that was not the cause of this particular issue. The graph was simply unable to support it's own weight, let alone resist the wind. It would simply flop over from not having enough stength. I kepth it loosely staked so that it could move, but be held erect until the trunk and branches increased in caliper enough. Just the same, I would still tie it loosely for the next year during especially windy weather for the next year afterwards(if it was leafed out). This is the first year I have not had to stake it in any way.

Arktrees


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RE: Acer saccharum 'Monumentale'

  • Posted by ademink z5a-5b Indianapolis (My Page) on
    Sun, Oct 9, 11 at 9:58

When I planted this thing (pics still forthcoming...sorry), I could feel a big, thick root in the letter "c"-ish somewhere in there. I teased out the feeder roots and other small roots prior to planting. It wasn't rootbound, but don't know what the story was on the thick guy....I'm guessing root stock that grew in the shape of the small pot????


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  • Posted by ademink z5a-5b Indianapolis (My Page) on
    Sun, Oct 9, 11 at 10:06

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Thanks for the pictures. Looks like it's pretty columnar. I would think within a couple years that you will know for certain if it's going to stay a tight pole. keep the pics coming.

Arktrees


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  • Posted by bboy USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA (My Page) on
    Mon, Oct 10, 11 at 19:12

So you completely bare-rooted the ginkgo?

Root deformity described is called "J-rooted". Like other types, it is common. The fact is the trade is doing a crap job of managing trees and shrubs in containers. Stock still in the production phase is routinely left too long in one container size and then slapped into the next, without making corrections. Retailers seldom pot on or fertilize, resulting in deterioration beginning nearly as soon as stock leaves the fertilization regime of the production facility.

Maple shown is too small to tell what habit it is going to produce.


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bboy,
Re-read my post. I made not claim about the root system. I made it clear I was addressing a different problem. I was addressing the stems being so limber that they were unable to support their own weight.

Arktrees


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RE: Acer saccharum 'Monumentale'

  • Posted by ademink z5a-5b Indianapolis (My Page) on
    Fri, Oct 14, 11 at 22:34

Well...........I don't know about all of that...but this thing darn well better be columnar for what I paid for the stick. LOL

It was Gee..and they seemed to know what they were talking about. Time shall tell.


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