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Wildfire Blackgum, or Nyssa sylvatica 'Wildfire'.
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Posted by
little_acorn 5A (
My Page) on
Mon, Oct 22, 12 at 14:35
I would like to know if one can spread a 20 foot Wildfire Blackgum, or Nyssa sylvatica 'Wildfire' tree in?
What I have always heard is that a Blackgum tree is very hard to re-plant or spread into the ground and live. Is this true?
I believe that I finally found a tree that I would love to have. It would be both a nice shade tree and have a great color in the Fall of the year.
As I was on the road this passed week and seen colors that were so beautiful only you would love a tree of this type in your yard.
Please gave me your thoughts on this |
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RE: Wildfire Blackgum, or Nyssa sylvatica 'Wildfire'.
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| HUH???? Spread a 20 foot Wildfire Blackgum??? And if it is a wild tree, it is not a 'Wildfire" Blackgum. Arktrees |
RE: Wildfire Blackgum, or Nyssa sylvatica 'Wildfire'.
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| Hi Little Acorn. Nyssa in general has been a difficult transplant for me. I am noticing a pattern though. I plant a tree, it looks ok during the growing season and suffers dieback in the winter. Then I replace it with another and move the first to a non prime location where it suffers worse What I did with my last Wildfire was just leave it in place that second winter and it suffered no additional die back (mild winter also by coincidence?). So we are going to start pruning back for shape this spring. I would love a chance to do a few potted nyssa transplants in late fall during a perfect cool weather spell to see how they fare the next year. If you are talking about moving a 20 footer I wouldnt even try if my time or money were finite. |
RE: Wildfire Blackgum, or Nyssa sylvatica 'Wildfire'.
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| Sorry about the spade mistake what I ment to say is that I would like to know if one could plant a 20 foot tree by spadeing it in. |
RE: Wildfire Blackgum, or Nyssa sylvatica 'Wildfire'.
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| toronado3800 With that said what tree would you replace it with? I have always heard that you could not move a Blackgum because it has a tap root that goes deep. I love the color of it in the Fall of the year. An I believe that the root system is what I am look for also. One that does not get into title and damage driveways and sidewalks.
A perfect tree all the way round. |
RE: Wildfire Blackgum, or Nyssa sylvatica 'Wildfire'.
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| Likely not IMHO. They don't like their roots messed with much. With that said, there are specimen tree suppliers that MIGHT have one of that size that have been specifically grown for transplanting (meaning special treatment of the root system during tree production), but you would be paying some serious $$$ for one of those. Another option is that it is probable possible to get a 45G or even larger container tree, that would be a rather large size. However, in case you aren't aware, the larger the tree, the harder it is to transplant, and the longer the recovery time. Especially with large trees such as these, you have to stay on top of watering (water when it is needed, and not on a time schedule), and proper planting. Arktrees |
RE: Wildfire Blackgum, or Nyssa sylvatica 'Wildfire'.
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| Likely not IMHO. They don't like their roots messed with much. With that said, there are specimen tree suppliers that MIGHT have one of that size that have been specifically grown for transplanting (meaning special treatment of the root system during tree production), but you would be paying some serious $$$ for one of those. Another option is that it is probable possible to get a 45G or even larger container tree, that would be a rather large size. However, in case you aren't aware, the larger the tree, the harder it is to transplant, and the longer the recovery time. Especially with large trees such as these, you have to stay on top of watering (water when it is needed, and not on a time schedule), and proper planting. Arktrees |
RE: Wildfire Blackgum, or Nyssa sylvatica 'Wildfire'.
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Last year I put in a Sweetgum about 20 foot tall and it is doing very will so far. It replaced a Ash tree that had Elmer Ash Bore. So now I am looking for another tree to replace my other Ash tree and we love the color of the Blackgum in the Fall in fact we like everything about it.
Do you have any suggestions on what tree meats the Blackgum? |
RE: Wildfire Blackgum, or Nyssa sylvatica 'Wildfire'.
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| Downy serviceberry - Amelanchier arborea Sourwood - Oxydendrum arboreum Red oak - Quercus rubra (Fall color is variable, try to find one now so you can tell what it'll look like) Sugar Maple - Acer saccharum - Probably my favorite all-around tree (don't try to grow a garden under it) |
RE: Wildfire Blackgum, or Nyssa sylvatica 'Wildfire'.
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| To better understand what hight I am looking for it to get is around 40 to 60 feet tall or over. |
RE: Wildfire Blackgum, or Nyssa sylvatica 'Wildfire'.
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| Nyssa sylvatica is pretty polite far as seed and flower mess goes. Most folks probably plant one of the five popular acer rubrum cultivars and never think of nyssa. What would I plant in place of mine? I dunno. Scarlet oak? My Nyssa is in a spot that can be a little damp some years so I dunno. |
RE: Wildfire Blackgum, or Nyssa sylvatica 'Wildfire'.
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- Posted by picea 6A Cinci- Oh (My Page) on
Tue, Oct 23, 12 at 23:55
| Other tree to consider for good fall color would be Sassafras and shingle Oaks. If you have a large local nursery I would go there and look at them and see which individual plants are coloring best. |
RE: Wildfire Blackgum, or Nyssa sylvatica 'Wildfire'.
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| American smoke tree has excellent fall color - ours has beautiful orange foliage. |
RE: Wildfire Blackgum, or Nyssa sylvatica 'Wildfire'.
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| Shingle oaks around here are brown this year. |
RE: Wildfire Blackgum, or Nyssa sylvatica 'Wildfire'.
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| I saw a Wildfire at my local nursery on the northside of Indianapolis, and considered purchasing it. However, I have seen the zones listed as 5, but sometimes just 6. Does anyone have experience with this tree in the northern climate? Also, it is described as "Tough as nails", yet the forum talks about dieback. It sounds like a beauty, and I like something "different" than say, Sugar Maples. Any suggestions? Thanks! |
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