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Posted by
Seeded LA (
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Tue, Oct 25, 11 at 17:41
| Hello. Planted two 6ft Shumard Oaks two years ago in my SE Louisiana front yard. Did my research with LSU AG Center and decided on this tree because they said it performed well here, storm tolerant, and as a bonus , a little fall color. Not happy with their perfomance. They don't appear to have grown at all, and for the last two years they have dropped all of their leaves the first week of October with no color change. Sought the help of a local nursery owner who told me to dig them up. Said he hates the Shumards for this area and gave me a list of other oaks to plant. Does this sound like a situation to give up on? Would it be possible to relocate these trees to the back (so they don't break my heart every time I walkout of the house ;) ), or should I wait another year or two? Thanks. |
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RE: Shumard Oaks
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- Posted by hortster 6A southcentral KS (My Page) on
Tue, Oct 25, 11 at 20:41
Truly don't know about Shumard oak in your area. My neighbor has one here in zone 6A and it has been a boon, often beautiful in the fall, tolerant of our high pH soils, squirrels love it, growth rate medium. Fall color varies with many oaks from year to year, but his yearly can reasonably produce good color. I planted four oaks, a hybrid, a shingle, a bur and a chinkapin. Problem free trees (so far). I would urge you to wait, see what your oaks (most are slow to re-establish) do. Oaks are slow trees, but with lengthy lifespan and good character.
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RE: Shumard Oaks
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- Posted by jqpublic 7b/8a Wake County NC (My Page) on
Wed, Oct 26, 11 at 0:44
| What oak did they suggest? It may help me decide if I think he's a quack or worth his salt. |
RE: Shumard Oaks
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| He suggested the nuttall oak and the willow oak. |
RE: Shumard Oaks
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- Posted by j0nd03 7 west/central AR (My Page) on
Wed, Oct 26, 11 at 12:27
| I would think both of those would be very nice for your area, but I think the same would apply to shumard. Looking at the natural range of the 3, nuttall seems to have a greater presence in SE LA. $0.02 John |
Here is a link that might be useful: Quercus nuttalli = Nuttall Oak but the current correct name is Quercus texana
RE: Shumard Oaks
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| Thanks for the info everybody. Thinking of going to a tree farm this weekend in north LA to see what the nuttalls look like up close. I guess I'll leave the Shumards where they are...for now. |
RE: Shumard Oaks
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| I have three Shumards out on farm. One of them did nearly nothing for 2 years. This past summer it took off and grew 2 ft. But leaves on all have red color and they do not fall in Oct. but Nov. We have 2 Shumards planted at our house. One of them routinely has good red color and leaves fall late Nov-early Dec. The other has never had any red color and the leaves are falling now. Both about 8 yrs old. I'd replace one this winter if no fall color this year and the other next winter if no color or growth next fall. |
RE: Shumard Oaks
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- Posted by jcalhoun 8b Mobile County AL (My Page) on
Sat, Oct 29, 11 at 19:30
| Oaks will take a few years to get established. I think, if planted correctly, they will start growing well in another year or two. |
RE: Shumard Oaks
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| Just wanted to thank everyone again for the advice/info and give an update on the two troublesome shumards. One has exploded in growth (about three ft up and two out). It is thickening from the inside out with leaves. Can't believe it. Don't know about the leaf color yet as we are just getting ready to burn up down here for the summer. I'll keep y'all posted. The other tree is just as it was. I've decided to leave it alone for another year and see if it takes off. If not, probably will put in a live oak in it's spot next year. |
RE: Shumard Oaks
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| Thanks for the update :) Glad to hear at least one of them is doing well. It is always nice to hear back from folks! John |
RE: Shumard Oaks
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| Glad you reported back. It really adds value to these threads for folks who come along later. Richard. |
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