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whaas 5a SE WI (
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Fri, Oct 12, 12 at 19:17
| 24 degrees last night. I was curious what I was going to find when I got home this evening. Although the extreme, they are known for dropping a carpet of gold. This one dropped all its green leaves. No fall show for this one!
It will be fine as it already set buds but I wonder if it send the necessary reserves to the root system?

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whaas, Don't seem to be able to see the photos, but I'm guessing you are talking about you Ginkgo. Assuming that is correct, then don't worry. Our Ginkgo has had fall color only one year to date. The leaves have been frozen off the tree while green every year otherwise. Does not seem to bother them in the least. At least not in the south. Arktrees |
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| I don't have an answer to your question. We have a freeze warning tonight; we are getting down to 28 overnight. Our weather anchor said everyone in the WNY area is getting below freezing tonight--guaranteed. He said earlier today if any vegetation out there is uncovered, it will have brown leaves by Sunday dinner. I wonder what will happen to my fully leaved trees? |
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- Posted by whaas 5a SE WI (My Page) on
Fri, Oct 12, 12 at 22:54
| I don't know whats up with the pic. It was just strange to see a carpet of green leaves! Most other plants look fine. The only other plant that looked in poor shape was Hydrangea. Others just lost more leaves. |
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| Link to the picture says we must sign in. |
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| At least yours fell off. My Princeton Senrty leaves are hanging on brown/olive and limp. Same with the Catalpa. |
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| WoW! We got a huge frost this morning. It's so thick, and the trees are covered with it. I wonder if anyone else here on the forum got their first frost this weekend... |
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- Posted by whaas 5a SE WI (My Page) on
Sat, Oct 13, 12 at 9:14
| I'm enjoying the best rainfall in just about a year right now! Just over an 1" which is the greatest rainfall in 11 months and thats only a 10 or so total. Its supposed to rain all weekend. One picture shows the golden carpet. I gave my neighbor this tree last fall as it was a design idea gone wrong on my part. We had the whole neighbor bonding thing going on during the transplant and planting. Packed it up for the winter. When I saw him in the spring he asked if he had to do anything special and I just said, water it deeply if you don't get rain for a couple weeks. Well the jerk off didn't water it 1 time in the driest summer in over 100 years. I watered it occasionally because of its location but it was still stressed just because it had almost peak fall color in early October. Sorry, it was raining and I had to zoon from indoors. Still don't know what happened with the pic above. It shows as broken in my account. Perhaps a corrupt file.
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| Hooray! I am so happy you're getting rain, Whaas! |
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whaas, Trees that are drought stressed always seem to change early. So that may have something to do with it. Also, while I don't feel comfortable making a statement as fact, I have noticed a pattern in when Ginkgo change. The trees that I believe are Princeton Sentry appear to me to change later. Those that I think are Autumn Gold, seem much more reliably to change color earlier and consistently. As I said, I don't KNOW this, but I think this might be the case. Would certainly not be surprising as many other tree species have clones that are know to change earlier or later. lovemytrees, We got our first frost/freeze last weekend/early week. Pushing our color change along even though it has been warm the last couple days, and severe weather is expected today/tonight. Arktrees |
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| Whaas, if you don't mind stating it, what town are you near? I ask only because I've become quite interested in that whole area to the N. of Milwaukee since my eldest son bought the place in Cedarburg. One thing I've noticed and love about that area-lots of big, old, and beautiful Norway spruce. They seem to be everywhere and they seem to grow extremely well down there. We've too got heavy rain going here in A-Town. Of course I'm loving it, even if it is making outside work impossible. Also providing a good test to the big stream restoration that just wrapped up Friday. Like most urban streams, very flashy in big rain events...I do hope (And expect) that all the work will hold up. Actually, the tree/shrub/herbaceous plant plugs planting is going in next year. Used a product on this job called "BioD blocks" made by a firm called Rolanka, if anyone's interested in this sort of thing. Trees, shrubs, and forbs, sedges and grasses will go into and around that stuff. +oM |
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- Posted by whaas 5a SE WI (My Page) on
Sat, Oct 13, 12 at 12:55
| Hey Tom, I'm just southwest of West Bend. And you're right there are quite a few Norway Spruce, White Spruce and White Pine. They love the sandy loam and the higher elevation. I haven't seen density like that anywhere in SE WI. |
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- Posted by whaas 5a SE WI (My Page) on
Sat, Oct 13, 12 at 13:14
| Ark, my Autumn Gold, Princeton Sentry and Jade Butterflies where all green when they dropped. I got consistent fall color otherwise in the past. Likely as it it gets cooler sooner in this area. My Beijing Gold, White Lightening, Pete's Dwarf and Mariken all turned quick and dropped in mid-Sept. Since they are all young I'm thinking they were all a bit more stressed. |
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| Thanks Whaas. So there's sand around there? Another surprise to me. Spruceman and I,probably Gardenweb's two most erstwhile champions of all things Picea abies, are casually assessing just what conditions are responsible for the extra good growth of this species that one encounters at times and in different places. Without a doubt, S.E. WI is a hot spot. Then too, as I mentioned in one of our communications, lots, and I mean lots of these trees were planted in that area over the past say 100 yrs. Just by that alone, the chance for especially nice ones is increased. Another thing I love about your area is the re-emergence of Thuja occidentalis-northern white cedar-in groves as a naturally-occurring species. Yeah I know, I geek about some strange stuff! +oM |
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- Posted by whaas 5a SE WI (My Page) on
Sat, Oct 13, 12 at 23:26
| Yeah, its where the glaciers carved through the area. Lots of rock too. Its not a very large area though. Go 5 miles east and you are in Jackson. Which is extremely flat and all clay. It must be a good clay as two of SE WI largest nurseries (Johnsons and Minors) have farms in this area. Same goes for Mequon which is just south of Cedarburg. Some areas near Big and Little Cedar lake have masses of norway spruce. I know they aren't native but I don't know how and who planted 100s and 100s of them in the middle of nowhere. |
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| Yep, been to Johnson's. Minor's too but that might have been their retail yard. That itself was a pretty big spread. I'll have to check out the Big and Little Cedar Lake areas. See the signs on the highway all the time. Lots of NS all around the Lake Church area too as well as Mequon and Cedarburg itself. Son's on Green Bay Rd. Right by his house there's some real big and tall ones. Thanks. +oM |
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- Posted by jqpublic 7b/8a Wake County NC (My Page) on
Fri, Oct 19, 12 at 0:10
| Thanks for sharing. We tend to ease into fall/winter so we don't see that much in the south/midatlantic |
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