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want tree id for very late fall color

Posted by gottagarden z5 western NY (My Page) on
Tue, Nov 27, 12 at 11:15

This tree has beautiful fall foliage a full month after all the other trees have lost their leaves. Sorry for the poor quality, I used my cell phone since I see this on my drive.

Great color past Thanksgiving!

From mystery tree

From mystery tree

From mystery tree

From mystery tree


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RE: want tree id for very late fall color

see link.. no further comment.. lol ...

looking down that sidewalk.. its the only tree in the easement side ...

the stressors it deals with.. may or may not be duplicated in a properly sited tree ... in other words.. the roadway and side walk.. may be doing something to its roots.. to make it hang on to its leaves longer ... like keeping them warm ....

not that anyone here will recommend you plant one.. IF my ID is right ...

the proverbial.. tree that shall not be named.. lol

ken

Here is a link that might be useful: link


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  • Posted by whaas 5a SE WI (NW) (My Page) on
    Tue, Nov 27, 12 at 13:50

As soon you said it had fall color past Thanksgiving I knew exactly what it was. Those things are very resistant to frosts and freezes. ALWAYS the last plant to drop...besided Oaks that maintain leaves in winter.


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In 5-10 years that tree will be falling apart, a sparse, chunky mess. Go back in the spring and smell the stinky flowers. P-U!


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Embarassingly enough I own one. Previous owners fault.

This year it actually showed good fall. Most years all I get are the wet diaper smellin flowers.

They are invasive most places.


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Gee, I didn't know they grew that far north. At least they do have pretty foliage in the fall.


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Crabapple, dogwood, redbud, witch hazel would be attractive alternative small native trees, each with much more to offer, IMHO.


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I've often wondered why, in general, trees of Asian origin, even those from areas with very cold winters, turn color and drop leaves so late.

BTW, around here, every few years, the Bradford/Callery pears end up having their leaves frozen off green before any color comes. If it dips below about the lower 20s before Nov. 15th, that seems to be the killing point.


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THANKS all for your id. Red Bradford pear

Joeschmoe is right in that the temp has dipped down to 25 a couple of times, but no lower.

THANKS also for the observation that it is a stinky plant, if I plant any they will be far away and viewed for late fall color. I'm looking to do a far boundary in gorgeous fall colors. (already have sugar maple)

I have larch that is very brightly colored now, a tree like this would make a great pairing. Great soil, no road, far from the house, but viewable.

thanks again for all the observations.


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Nonsense, I greatly enjoy my allee of Bradford pears and their consistent fall color.

Well, it's not really my allee - whoever 15-20 years ago landscaped the small business mall I frequently drive past, planted a row of Bradfords, which are engaging in their modestly deformed way. They have somehow survived a set of ice storms, and since I don't have to pay the tree service to maintain them, I can enjoy their fall bounties without cost.

I do have several trees that outlasted the Bradfords for fall color, including Parrotia persica, bald cypress and paperbark maple (but they're trash trees ;)


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I like flowering dogwood, sassafras, and serviceberry. I wouldn't ever plant a bradford pear. (Even if I wanted to plant them, I wouldn't need to - the $!!&@ things come up all over the place, and there aren't any for at least a mile around my house.)


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My parrotia still had leaves as of last weekend, about the only remaining tree with leaves (except oaks) - nice deep yellow.


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Is 'Bradford' pear and it's siblings invasive in NY like it is in Georgia, Virginia and some other states? Thorny seedlings pop up in natural areas all over the place in those two states.

Here is a link that might be useful: New invasive plant - ornamental pear


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esh_ga
That link was helpful. Callery are officially invasive in my state!


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Since Callery pears tend to be invasive and weak-wooded, I figured I would suggest some trees and shrubs that I have found to hold their color later than other plants and which you could plant as an alternative (in addition to the ones you have been given above).

A couple of the native Viburnums, V. acerifolium (maple-leaf viburnum) and V. lentago (nannyberry) both have pinkish-red leaves well into November.

High bush blueberries have scarlet leaves that hang on almost as late as the Viburnums.

Some of the Freeman maples (which are a hybrid of 2 native species) tend to hold their leaves later than any of the other maples in my area by several weeks, but since they are planted in parking lots and malls, I don't know the specific variety. Though these are a silver maple and red maple cross, they tend not to have the structural problems that plague silver maples.

Red oaks can be variable in color, but if you choose your tree in the fall you can get a plant with stunning color. Ours range from gold to plain brown to bright rusty red, depending on the tree.

American beech has stunning clear gold color and like the oaks are some of the last really large trees to change color.

Hope this helps.


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nhbabs - thanks for your thoughtful answer. I will research these for my garden.


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