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| I've never grown anything among the small Asian maples outside the traditional "Japanese" A. palmatum.
Aside from the thousands of Palmatums out there, can someone tell me about these: What is the species like for color, growth rate, height, etc, and what cultivars of note are available for them? -Acer japonicum -Acer pseudosieboldianum -Acer ginnala -Acer truncatum -Acer tataricum -Acer truncatum x platanoides (forget if there is an "official" name for this hybrid, often I see it called Norwegian Sunset Maple Feel free to mention others that are noteworthy. Finally, how would any of these do in my zone, and in my heavy, silt-loam, acidish (5.9 ph) soil? FWIW, although heavy, the soil does usually drain rather well, and standing water is VERY unusual since I'm on higher ground. Also, would these do well in a more neutral (7.0) soil environment for my friend Indiana? Thanks! |
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- Posted by lou_midlothian_tx z8 DFW, Tx (My Page) on Thu, Nov 15, 12 at 22:41
| I can say that A. truncatum is a lot easier to grow than A. palmatum in hot and sunny condition... Fall color in Texas is usually yellow but 'Fire Dragon' consistently produce red fall color. At my old house, the soil is alkaline limestone rubble soil... |
Here is a link that might be useful: Shantung maple
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| Should consider Acer griseum, triflorum and shirasawanum as well. I prefer the ornamental value of these plants over these plants. Acer ginnala -Acer truncatum -Acer tataricum -Acer truncatum x platanoides |
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| Some others worth getting: Acer maximowiczianum Acer carpinifolium Acer argutum And of course any / all of the snakebark maples. Resin |
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| Acer carpinifolium is a nice underrated plant. |
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| A. japonicum and A. pseudosieboldianum both resemble A. palmatum quite much, and should be grown under similar conditions. I am only growing pseudosieboldianum myself, but it seems quite happy in mostly shade under some large oak trees. Acer ginnala and acer tataricum, wich are closely related, are not among the more spectacular maples. I would not call them boring, but I think there are more exciting species. I think A. ginnala is concidered an invasive weed in some american states. Handle with care, mine started produce seeds first year after plantation. |
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- Posted by toronado3800 Z6 St. Louis (My Page) on Fri, Nov 16, 12 at 21:28
| I second acer grisium. It seems to be growing in popularity. Mine had good red fall color this year also. |
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| Paperbark maples can't recommended to Highly, they are great. For fall color acer Japonicum is consistently very good. I also have Acer Takesimense that I like a lot for color and leaf shape. |
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- Posted by strobiculate none (My Page) on Sun, Nov 18, 12 at 7:40
| a. pseudosieboldianum is one of the most overlooked plants out there. the change in leaf color through the seasons is sublime, from the bloom of purple at emergence that provides the common name to the fall color, which when fully developed, is incredible beyond description. i am unaware of cultivars; but even with seedling grown, i've never been disappointed. and the hardiness is exceptional. any discussion of alternative maples that does not include a. griseum and a. triflorum is incomplete. a. griseum is by far the showier...in both bark and fall color. if brilliant red fall plumage is your thing, you NEED one of these. contact girard's in ohio. a. triflorum is more understated. if over the top you find a trifle vulgar, this one is an excellent choice. the bark exfoliates in sheets as large as any other species and does so freely from a young age. fall color is highly variable, from unremarkable through the spectrum of brilliant clear yellows and into the oranges. a. ginnala and a. tataricum are in that any thing else category. if you can grow anything else, you do. if you can't grow anything else, you grow these. if you can't grow these... fall color generally exceptional, but i really can't say i'm too impressed except in eceptionally challenging environments. a. japonicum is incredibly similar to a. palmatum. a bit larger, with generally more impressive fall color...but that's a subjective assessment. a fair number of cultivars exist...but unless you absolutely one of everything, probably only a few stand out. if you want a good reference on different maple species and cultivars, maples for gardens by van gelderen and van gelderen |
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- Posted by strobiculate none (My Page) on Sun, Nov 18, 12 at 7:40
| a. pseudosieboldianum is one of the most overlooked plants out there. the change in leaf color through the seasons is sublime, from the bloom of purple at emergence that provides the common name to the fall color, which when fully developed, is incredible beyond description. i am unaware of cultivars; but even with seedling grown, i've never been disappointed. and the hardiness is exceptional. any discussion of alternative maples that does not include a. griseum and a. triflorum is incomplete. a. griseum is by far the showier...in both bark and fall color. if brilliant red fall plumage is your thing, you NEED one of these. contact girard's in ohio. a. triflorum is more understated. if over the top you find a trifle vulgar, this one is an excellent choice. the bark exfoliates in sheets as large as any other species and does so freely from a young age. fall color is highly variable, from unremarkable through the spectrum of brilliant clear yellows and into the oranges. a. ginnala and a. tataricum are in that any thing else category. if you can grow anything else, you do. if you can't grow anything else, you grow these. if you can't grow these... fall color generally exceptional, but i really can't say i'm too impressed except in eceptionally challenging environments. a. japonicum is incredibly similar to a. palmatum. a bit larger, with generally more impressive fall color...but that's a subjective assessment. a fair number of cultivars exist...but unless you absolutely one of everything, probably only a few stand out. if you want a good reference on different maple species and cultivars, maples for gardens by van gelderen and van gelderen |
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