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v1rtu0s1ty 5a (
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Mon, Dec 26, 11 at 12:43
| Hi folks,
I started two catalpa trees from seed last year and it's now about 18" tall. It is about 6 feet away from the side of my neighbor's driveway. I would like to know if that is very close to the driveway. I have seen old catalpa trees on lawns by the street. However, I don't have any information about their root system.
any help would be greatly appreciated!
Merry Christmas!
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RE: young catalpa near driveway
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| Six feet is probably not ideal but I bet you will be ok. I have concrete out in the front of my driveway 100 feet from the nearest tree with cracks starting in it. For some reason they come by and repave the interstate and regular roads every few years also. Pavement does not last forever. Is that just THE spot for it? Neat trees btw. |
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| I would be very annoyed if my neighbor planted a catalpa that close to my driveway, and extremely annoyed if it was over the area where I parked vehicles. Catalpas are messy and weak wooded. |
RE: young catalpa near driveway
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| Thanks folks! I will transfer it then. Didn't know they were messy. :) I'll transplant them in spring. Should be fine right? |
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- Posted by j0nd03 7 west/central AR (My Page) on
Mon, Dec 26, 11 at 17:41
| One of the more messy trees out there, actually. Early spring should be fine for transplant. I killed a similar sized baby this spring that drowned from the deluge that was our spring. Never even popped a bud. |
RE: young catalpa near driveway
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| Got it. fyi Below is where I got the seeds from. It's just about 3-4 miles from my house.

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| in my z5 ... the perfect time to bare root them.. is as soon as the ground thaws ... which ends up being 6 to 8 weeks before the real heat of summer hits ... at this time.. the plant is totally dormant.. so it can take just about anything .. except for leaving it on the driveway for a few days ... dig them up.. cut any damaged roots .. tap root is irrelevant ... and replant properly for your soil.. mulch.. water them in .. and then dont water again until the soil dries in what.. june or july ... advise if you need info on planting in clay ... been wondering where you have been.. glad to see you stop back in.. happy new year .. ken |
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- Posted by j0nd03 7 west/central AR (My Page) on
Mon, Dec 26, 11 at 19:11
| Beautiful specimens! We have some pretty large ones around here, too and what a beauty to behold when they are in flower!!! The local ones do seem to get disease and leader dieback (sometimes 10'+) frequently. If there wasn't one right across the street, I would plant another. Just not near the driveway ;) |
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| ken, I had a knee operation back in Aug 3. I had a bone protrusion below my knee cap due to too much sports activity in the days. The doctor shaved it off. I'm feeling better now and hopefully to get back in sports next year. I had this pain since 2005 but it was the worst this July. |
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| Hi V1, yes Catalpas are a bit messy as they drop flowers, those big bean pods, and large leaves, but what canopy tree is not messy? They all drop something. Perhaps it would be better to plant a smaller tree along a driveway. One nice thing about Catalpas is that they make a great shade tree in northern climates partly because they drop their leaves all at once with the first hard frost. Thus you get instant solar gain when the weather is cooling off. I would rather have a Catalpa than the large Pin Oak that is in the southeast position from my house. That dang Pin Oak holds on to leaves forever, AND it's messy too. |
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| I don't remember ever seeing root problems with Catalpa, but then have never seen them planted just 6' from something I was worried about. |
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| I agree with the 'all trees are messy' sentiments expressed above. To me, only those tree droppings that are not readily handled by any mulching or side discharge mower are actual problems. Shade over a parking area is priceless too in my book. Overall, for where I am on south, I think the N. catalpa is a great shade tree choice in many cases. +oM |
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| Awesome replies folks! All were helpful! :) So the question now is: is it fine to transplant the young tree now while it's dormant? We've been getting an average temps of 30-35F. |
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| In zone 5a and this far along in the season, I'd just wait until the ground thaws in spring. It would probably be OK either way, but early/mid spring would probably be the best time. |
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| Yeah, I'd wait for spring. +oM |
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- Posted by j0nd03 7 west/central AR (My Page) on
Tue, Dec 27, 11 at 17:39
| Although a unique tree with many appealing qualities, it is IMO messier than most forest trees. I suppose in that respect I disagree with those above. The pods drive some people crazy with the mess they make. |
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- Posted by whaas 5a SE WI (My Page) on
Tue, Dec 27, 11 at 18:49
| I've expressed this before... They are nice trees and all but their larger leaf is a PITA to mulch, the seed pods are hideous in fall, fall color is terrible, structure is typically poor and they suffer from disease in the midwest to the point where no one really grows them anymore. I'd chose the space for at least 30 other hardy trees in place of this one. Its just me though... |
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| 55 years ago I mowed my neighbors yard. In front of his house he had two mature Catalpa trees. Those two trees are still there and are still very attractive in the front yard. There were no roots coming to the surface and it was very easy to mow around. I think the Catalpa tree is one of the most under rated tree for use in the landscape. Not only does it have a very attractive shape, in the spring it is very pretty when it is in bloom. The flowers are shaped like orchids, and have a very sweet pleasant aroma. SO in my opinion the positive well out weigh the large beans that form. (They are easily mulched up with the mower.) You can see these at least 80 year old trees on Google Street View at 817 South Webster Road New Haven Indiana. |
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| anything moved this time of year.. near ann arbor.. if the ground isnt frozen.. would most likely heave out of the ground in late winter or spring ... transplant time was a few weeks either side of 10/1 ... with reduced odds the further you go into nov ... lets be realistic neil.. it january ... ken |
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- Posted by jqpublic 7b/8a Wake County NC (My Page) on
Fri, Dec 30, 11 at 1:47
| The mama tree is sure gorgeous! |
RE: young catalpa near driveway
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| Do you get along with your neighbor? Before moving it, why not ask him his opinion? Take him for a drive past a couple other large catalpas in the area so he can see what they look like and see the pods if he isn't familiar with them. It doesn't sound like the proximity to the driveway is really a problem, so the issue is whether future leaves/pods falling will cause him to hate you. Once you are done with that, get his wife's opinion and do what she says. Personally I love having a naturally, decidously shaded parking area in the summer and don't care about the dormant trees in the winter. This despite the bird nest that is always placed just above your hood and windshield and the rain of sap/aphid poop during the summer. |
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| "...so the issue is whether future leaves/pods falling will cause him to hate you." Beeone, lots of leaf litter and seed pods are bad enough, but don't you think the neighbor might have something to say about the brittle limbs coming down onto his car during storms or just about anytime? I agree that talking to the neighbor is a good idea when the proper tree for the application is chosen, but I'm not sure this is the tree for that location. And, unless the yards are small, I'm not convinced that the location is even a good idea for a tree (unless the neighbor really WANTS a tree there too). |
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| Yet another reason to keep catalpas away from driveways: these trees are, in my experience, very prone to infestation by black aphids. The honeydew secreted by the aphids is about the last thing anyone would want dripping onto his/her car. Or outdoor furniture. Or patio. Catalpas are beautiful trees in the right place, but they need lots of room away from buildings, cars, etc. |
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